The liberals here are certainly cookie-cutter liberals, big gov't, gov't, hand-outs, huge gov't spending, gun-haters, anti-Constitutionalists, etc.
The 'conversation' here is ridiculous, nobody can convince the other side, the liberal side has been 'trained' over the years by the liberal media and schools... too late for them.
This whole discussion about the 'fiscal cliff' is a perfect example, these brainwashed liberals continue to believe it's TAXING THE RICH that will solve our problems... when it's so simple... a dem/lib fed. gov't SPENDS TOO MUCH....
And you'll only see "cuts" to 'proposed spending' from Obama.. which is simply a way to look like you've cut something as your spending continues to grow.
He's playing the 'class warfare' card with the republicans since that's really all he's got in his arsenal... pit the poor and middleclass against the rich while f'ing all of them.
You brilliant liberals fail to see down the road far enough to know that such policies can't work, never have... you are blind to history and to common sense.
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