but please don't use the BS line that guns don't kill people, people kill people.
It is also a fact that " Guns don't kill people , people kill people"
It is not BS , it is a fact . My gun won't jump out of the holster and kill anyone by itself, so even if I were insane , my gun won't do anything . It is an inanimate object without human interaction.
I'd say bullets kill people. I also agree people kill people. With bullets, knives, war, bare hands, slit throats, jumping off buildings, car crashes, cigarettes, in zillions of ways.
If you're going to say the line is BS, then I'd say you would have to be of the opinion that cars and building ledges (jumpers) kill people too and they should be regulated in that context. It's not the gun. It's not the car. It's who we allow to operate these things... Though, IMO, it's way to easy to get a drivers license in this awesome country. And not that it helps, but I don't think they ever put "cause of death: people" on death certificates
I love my guns and I will not be giving them up. But I am fine that I have to get a CHL, of the hoops I had to jump through to get my Osprey and other AOWs.
I completely agree Obama has only expanded gun rights and this idea he is working to take our guns away is absurd. I'm blue, but you'll never find me without a pistol on my person.
You've never heard of pipe bombs or those flaming cocktails I forget the name of.
Using guns to kill is just one of millions of ways to kill or maim. It's naive to think that outlawing guns would make any difference.
Plus then only the outlaws would have guns and the honest people who were naive enough to turn in their weapons like they did in Australia would no longer be citizens. They would be subjects and victims.
I honestly don't understand why the damaged liberal mind does not allow them to see this obvious truth.
I agree using guns is just one of zillions of ways and that any sort of "gun give in" would only mean honest folks don't have guns. It's like "no guns allowed" signs. it only applies to the good guys. The bad guys are going to bring it in regardless. I guess the only real solution is to BAN CRIME. That should do it!
Your home made bomb assertion is silly though IMO. They just do not compare to nuts with an AR. I'd happily face off against some idiot with a home made explosive over some idiot with a semi-automatic weapon. While I do agree banning guns would just mean people use other weapons, I do not agree the same scale could be reached. Having said that, nobody is taking my guns.
This same doof has 3 little kids. Where does he have all his guns?? Gun safe. So excuse me Mr Criminal while I go open my gun safe so I can blow you away. Stupid.
I got kids too. Having kids does not equate to not having easily accessible yet safely secured firearms. Having your long rifles in a safe doesn't mean you don't have one on your hip or in a quick release box as well. A few GunVaults around the house takes care of it. There are myriad solutions.
The only thing that I recall in regards to guns that happened under the last administration was actually an extension of rights (C&C in national parks).
Here's some more gun control / gun owners rights information.
1) Obama said he would not sign any international arms treaty that diminished 2nd admendment rights for gun owners in the U.S.
2) It's estimated there around 300 million firarms in the U.S. There from 70 -80 million gun owners in the U.S. There only about 4.3 million NRA members; only about 1.6% of all gun owners. These statistics are from the NRA.
3) Before Obama was elected in '08 the NRA convinced gun owners into believing Obama was going to restrict gun sales. Gun sales went through the roof. After he was elected, Obama signed only two gun control bills. One made it legal for someone with a concealed carry permit to carry a gun on an Amtrac train. The 2nd bill made it legal for someone with a permit to carry in a national park. This is all he has done in regards to gun control.
So then the NRA sread the word, Obama is waiting to get re-elected before taking away all the guns. Again, gun sales went through the roof before the election. Sturm Ruger had to refuse any new orders because they couldn't keep up with the supply.
The idea Obama was waiting for a 2nd term to enact restrictive gun control was pretty stupid, because his re-election was not a sure thing. I think that if Romney didn't get caught on film saying he didn't care about half of Americans, he would have been elected.
So why does the NRA do this? Many people believe their main purpose is advocacy for 2nd admendment rights. It's not. The NRA's main purpose is marketing gun and hunting and shooting accessories. The more guns sold, the more firearm related merchandise the sell. Sturm Ruger even paid the NRA for the rights to sell NRA edition guns.
As I said before, all these scare tactics are just another way for politicians divide us with a wedge issue. And as far as people needing guns to prevent a government takeover, don't kid yourself. This is not the 1770s. It's not 1861. A bunch of militia members are not going to stand up to our modern day law enforcement let alone the military. They won't even have time to organize before they'll be shut down. One platoon of Marine Force Re-con would wipe out 100 civilians playing armyman.
Relax, no one out there in power is out to take your guns away. Even after the shootings in Arizona and Colorado, gun control didn't even come up in the campaign, no matter how hard the NRA tried to make it happen.
I've been a gun owner for about 45 years, and am ex-member of the NRA, because of their political views.
I'm pretty into my guns, but I also accept these facts as facts. Going after Obama is fine, but acting like he is out for our guns is parroting.
You all can continue to argue amongst yourselves if you wish , I am done .
For real this time?