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Instead of clogging up the "What did you do today" thread, I figured I'd make my own. Easier to find and update.

Anyway, today I tore the bike apart. I need to pull out the starter because it squeals like a whiny bitch when its cold. Also, I have a brand-new PCV to be installed, and I want to (re)install my iPod cord (from when I removed my lowers).

It was 17 degrees when I woke up; good thing I didn't have to work today. First thing I did: fired up the kerosene heater!

Removed the exhaust and pulled the starter. No rust in there (whew!), but lots of iron filings. Cleaned everything out, cleaned and regreased the bearings, and reassembled the motor. So far, no more squeals!

Next up:
Removal of the VFC III and installation of the PCV... (stay tuned)
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Jones' A3518B glass packs, no cats, VicBaggers tips, CREE LED
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KlockWerks KlipHanger bars, Avon grips, Kury Sabertooth LEDs

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Instead of clogging up the "What did you do today" thread, I figured I'd make my own. Easier to find and update.

Anyway, today I tore the bike apart. I need to pull out the starter because it squeals like a whiny bitch when its cold. Also, I have a brand-new PCV to be installed, and I want to (re)install my iPod cord (from when I removed my lowers).

It was 17 degrees when I woke up; good thing I didn't have to work today. First thing I did; fired up the kerosene heater!

Removed the exhaust and pulled the starter. No rust in there (whew!), but lots of iron filings. Cleaned everything out, cleaned and regreased the bearings, and reassembled the motor. So far, no more squeals!

Next up:
Removal of the VFC III and installation of the PCV... (stay tuned)
That looks like some great progress Broggy! Kudos!

Side note, I'm oddly elated to see that my bike is not the only one with a dirty engine.
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Good job and all accomplished with a mallet, screwdriver, vice grip and crescent wrench.

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Good job and all accomplished with a mallet, screwdriver, vice grip and crescent wrench.
Don't forget the WD-40!
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Painted wedges w/LEDs & derby cover, CFAD deflector, 90 HP, 106 TQ
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Jones' A3518B glass packs, no cats, VicBaggers tips, CREE LED
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So, the biggest question in my mind regarding this starter rebuild was "How am I going to hold back all of those brushes at the same time?" when it came time to reinstall the armature. I watched many videos. Every single video I saw all had the brush plate separate from the end cap. Did you know the Vic starter brush plate is bolted into the end cap? I didn't have anything springy or clampy enough to hold these back. I was in a bit of a pickle. In the back of my mind, I figured I'd probably have to buy a new starter.

One of the videos I was watching was for a Briggs-and-Stratton starter. The guy said you could buy a new brush plate and end cap as an assembly, the brushes were held back by baling wire. This got me thinking. So I took a look at the brush plate in the Vic starter and sure enough, there are small recesses that would be perfect to stick in a paperclip.

So, I took 2 paperclips, straightened them out, then cut them in half so I had 4 equal-sized pieces about 2 inches long each. I was able to push a brush back into its holder, slide it all the way back, and hold it into place with the paperclip piece. I was able to do all 4 brushes, slid in the armature, then pulled the pins out.

Worked like a CHARM.

Then, I realized I forgot to replace a couple of the bushings; I had to do it all over again. The sweet thing was, it was just as easy to do it all over again.

I only wish I had thought to stop and take photos; I was so excited that it was actually working...

Now, I just hope that what I did fixes that god-awful noise when it's cold out. It's certainly better than buying a new one for $75-100 (aftermarket).



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ATS+4 & filter, PCV, Memphis Shields fork wings, Ultimate seat
Painted wedges w/LEDs & derby cover, CFAD deflector, 90 HP, 106 TQ
PBR300X4 Amp, Polk DB522 fronts, Dayton Audio ND140-4 + tweeters rear
Jones' A3518B glass packs, no cats, VicBaggers tips, CREE LED
HyperLites, Quad-LED driving lights, Hydraulic Clutch
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Where there's a will there's a fix. Dontcha just love those work-arounds. Sometimes a repair job is 30% thinking, 70% wrenching.
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Nice work Brian
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Your way to fast to keep up with. New brushes cheap. Hope you cleaned the armature
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The brushes were fine. Armature/commutator was also cleaned
Not sure why I'd want to put in wedge-shaped brushes...



2013 XCT, Boardwalk Blue with Vicwrapz
ATS+4 & filter, PCV, Memphis Shields fork wings, Ultimate seat
Painted wedges w/LEDs & derby cover, CFAD deflector, 90 HP, 106 TQ
PBR300X4 Amp, Polk DB522 fronts, Dayton Audio ND140-4 + tweeters rear
Jones' A3518B glass packs, no cats, VicBaggers tips, CREE LED
HyperLites, Quad-LED driving lights, Hydraulic Clutch
KlockWerks KlipHanger bars, Avon grips, Kury Sabertooth LEDs

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Those "aftermarket" starters aren't aftermarket they are the exact same ones Victory uses right down to the numbers stamped on them. I bought one for my Vegas the same one Vic wants $100's for and it was an exact match.
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