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post #1 of 34 (permalink) Old 12-04-2013, 12:24 PM Thread Starter
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Shock Air Hose Detachable?

I realize from my shop manual and the assorted parts-fiche sites that the air hose that connects to the rear shock is not a separately available item (see example attached pic). I was wondering, however, how it is actually attached to the shock body, e.g., screwed in via threads, crimped in place, magically connected inside the shock, etc.

Anyone taken a shock out, or otherwise seen one up close and personal, know how this hose connects to the shock?
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found this on ebay and hoose looks like its a screw in

http://www.ebay.com/itm/POLARIS-1542...51bc69&vxp=mtr

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The dealership showed me the new shock before they put it in my XR this summer and I think the hose in crimped on.

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found this on ebay and hoose looks like its a screw in

http://www.ebay.com/itm/POLARIS-1542...51bc69&vxp=mtr
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The dealership showed me the new shock before they put it in my XR this summer and I think the hose in crimped on.
Well, that certainly clears up this mystery.

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Well, that certainly clears up this mystery.

Thanks guys.
That's so you can pick which answer suits you better
I have one hanging in my garage at home. If nobody gives a firm answer, I'll check when I get home in 5 days. I'm reasonably sure it is crimped on.

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That's so you can pick which answer suits you better
I have one hanging in my garage at home. If nobody gives a firm answer, I'll check when I get home in 5 days. I'm reasonably sure it is crimped on.
Botein: I'd be delighted to wait 5 -- or even 6 or 7 -- days to get the answer. If you would, and if at all possible, please post a detailed close-up pic of this connection. The pic on eBay was pretty good, but not definitive.

Interestingly, earlier today I had a brief email exchange, that went as follows:

Me to them:

I have a 2012 Victory "Cross Country Tour" motorcycle, which uses a single air-adjustable KYB rear shock. It is Polaris (the parent company of Victory motorcycles) part number 1542905, "Shock RSU-KYB AIR 90N/MM Victory Cross Country 2012 2013."

Included in that part number is a hose. One end of that hose is connected to the shock, and the other end terminates in a Schrader valve (the same type and size as found on tire valves, for instance, for the user to adjust the pressure).

I have a question that I hope someone can answer: how is the end of the hose that attaches to the shock body actually attached to the shock?

I am considering replacing that hose -- to make it longer -- and would like to know whether the hose screws into the shock body (perhaps with some sort of O-ring), or whether the hose is crimped in place on the shock body, or whether some other system is used for attachment.

Thank you for any assistance in this matter.

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KYB promptly back to me:

Bill,

KYB America covers only the aftermarket automotive industry, unfortunally we don't carry any information about OEM motorcycle parts. Please contact your motorcycle manufacturer for more information.

Thank you

Tech Support


And the Japanese KYB site ( http://www.kyb.co.jp/english/categor...cts/motorcycle ) doesn't appear to have a "Contact Us" email link, and you know Victory is not going to be any help, so, Botein, the world is now resting on your shoulders.

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I realize from my shop manual and the assorted parts-fiche sites that the air hose that connects to the rear shock is not a separately available item (see example attached pic). I was wondering, however, how it is actually attached to the shock body, e.g., screwed in via threads, crimped in place, magically connected inside the shock, etc.

Anyone taken a shock out, or otherwise seen one up close and personal, know how this hose connects to the shock?
now that we know you want to length your hose. Go to a good bycicle store and get a schrader valve adaptor. Then you can add a line

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now that we know you want to length your hose. Go to a good bycicle store and get a schrader valve adaptor. Then you can add a line
VJ: I wish it were that simple. I've spent hours -- actually, must total days by now -- on the 'Net looking at bicycle parts, Schrader companies, hydraulic companies, etc., etc., for the sort of thing I want... with no success. And I've emailed a few of these companies, describing exactly what I'm looking for, with no luck. What I was looking for would be some sort of cube-like connector, which would make that sharp right turn while not sticking out much past the stock valve; people make this sort of thing on a larger scale, for hydraulics and such like. I even researched the thread diameter and pitch of Schrader valves, thinking to have one made up by some machinist.

What I want to do is make a sharp right turn at the user end of the hose, add a hose (10" - 12" or so), and come out the front of the side cover. What has been stopping me is that there is less than half an inch of clearance, underneath, between the end of the stock Schrader valve and the side cover. I've tried adding right-angle valves and more acute-angle valves, but the cover won't fit back on if you do that.

If you have some specific part in mind at a bicycle store, I'm all ears. Otherwise, sorry, I don't really follow the drift of your suggestion.

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How about just moving the hose out of the stock hole that it is bolted into. Point it forward , maybe use a bracket from the hardware store or make one out of a small piece of steel or alunimum. Then screw your longer hose onto that and go ahead run it up to your handlebars,ha,ha.

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Take a look at car air shock hose kits. There are many varieties, you may be able to use one of those kits to extend the factory air shock hose. I recall seeing one that looked promising and you can cut the high pressure hose to a length that suits your needs. It also appears to be completely reversible since the adapter screws onto the air shocks Schrader valve. I was looking into this before other concerns became priority.




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