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I posed my questions on the new member page and got no response, so here goes again. I currently ride a 11 Street Glide that I enjoy. But... After a test ride on a XCountry, searching these forums and watching you tube videos, I was left wondering if I'm missing out. The handling was amazing and I can see with minimal work the power will exceed that of my SG. My question is to all the Harley touring converts, is it that much better? I do several long trips from Houston Texas to all over the place during the summer and I want the best, most reliable ride possible. I've been a die hard Harley guy for about 15 years but that test ride made me think... Give me some advice or opinions. Thanks in advance.
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I posed my questions on the new member page and got no response, so here goes again. I currently ride a 11 Street Glide that I enjoy. But... After a test ride on a XCountry, searching these forums and watching you tube videos, I was left wondering if I'm missing out. The handling was amazing and I can see with minimal work the power will exceed that of my SG. My question is to all the Harley touring converts, is it that much better? I do several long trips from Houston Texas to all over the place during the summer and I want the best, most reliable ride possible. I've been a die hard Harley guy for about 15 years but that test ride made me think... Give me some advice or opinions. Thanks in advance.
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I was a devoted harley guy until last year. Just about every aspect of the XC is better than a SG. Comfort, handling, storage, power, maintenance, price, etc. the only real issue that has to be addressed is the buffeting on the XC. That can be easily fixed though. The XC is just a better thought out bike and that's why I switched. I have no regrets. Just my 2 cents.

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I am a Harley convert, and you couldn't pay me enough to switch back. I came from a 2010 Road Glide, and before that was an Ultra Classic. Now I'm on a '13 Cross Country and been on it since July.
There are a hundred reasons why I can tell you why Victory is so much better then Harley, but one thing I can tell you is to youtube Harley vs. Victory. There is a 4 or 5 part video series done by Arizona Victory that explains why Harley is still stuck in the 1940's technology engine wise. Keep in mind it is a dealer, but nothing he says is a lie,.. its all true.
My dealer gutted my mufflers, put in a stage 1 filter and a tune on my bike before I took delivery. I've got 109 HP and something like 120 ft lbs of torque just from that (I didn't get the dyno sheet, but saw it). To do that with a Harley, either 96, 103, or even a 110 screamin eagle you would have to shell out some big bucks. It only cost me $700, even thought the stock XCs have something like 109 tq. and 100HP. My wife just sold her CVO Road Glide, but it couldn't keep up with my Cross Country, and these 103's Harley is putting out now suck my exhaust fumes from the get go.
handling is miles ahead of H-D, and comfort,.. well I was never comfortable on a Harley. I'm 6'3" and the floorboards were always to small, I felt cramped and anything more then 300-400 miles a day was difficult. On my Victory, I can ride on the stock seat, stock floorboards all day with no complaints or discomfort. Just the usual getting off to stretch at gas stops and I'm good. I changed out my bars, but that's because I like apes.
maintenance is easy, 1 hole for all 3. Because of that, the engine is cooler and riding across Arizona in July was hot, but not as hot as sitting on top of a Harley roasting. You have more storage in the saddlebags and even though the stereo controls looks like an afterthought hanging down, after some miles on the bike I prefer them that way.
One thing I did right away, was buy the Ness lower fork deflectors, and that took away any buffeting I had (which every bike I have ever rode had buffeting,.. its just something that comes with motorcycling and my build I guess). That's something you might look into.


I know its hard switching. It took me a few weeks to muster up the courage once I sat on one, to actually test ride it. After 2 blocks I was sold and converted. After 2500 miles and the bike broke in good, the seat broke in, I was happy as a pig in $#!t. If you listen to your friends that drink the H-D koolaide, you will never know what your missing. I may own a Harley again in the future, but it will be a bar hopper or something for fun around town. My Victory will take me on trips with no worries on breaking down or how bad my body is gonna hurt once Im there. I couldn't be happier, and that's my story.. lol
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Smitty, you mentioned reliability. Let me put it this way; You'll be wasting your money to buy an extended warranty. No point in my saying more, Chainsaw put it all out there. I can add this; be patient, break-in takes a while, maybe 3,000 miles or more, but its well worth the wait. Go ahead, and take the leap - you won't regret it one bit. I have great fun parking my Vic in with a group of Harleys. One time, an H-D guy said, "that's different." I replied, "those are all the same."

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Thanks so much fellas. I do a lot of my own maintenance work so I've been researching and a Victory motor seems to be much easier to work on. And $700 bucks to get 100+ hp & torque! Dude, $700 won't even get you out of the 85hp range on a stock 103" Harley! That is freaking mind blowing! Thanks again for all the advice. I'm going to see a local dealer when I get off this 2 week stretch at work and look for a XC in white!
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Have had Harley's since high school. Pan heads Knucklehead shovel heads and all the rest. Worked on my bikes and other peoples bikes. Made good evening money off Harley's. My last one was a SG and a trans main shaft bearing went out. It happens. So waiting for parts I went out and road five vision and two CC. Feel in love with the vision.
I think the motor noise is way less on the late model Harley's. If Vic would have used a primary chain they would have nailed it but they don't want to copy Harley. One oil does every thing on the Vic and you can lay on the ground drain oil in no time and be done. Yes you can read where the CC or XC has some problems but there very miner. A friend owns a sport center and sells four different models and he hates Vic. He says they don't come in for repairs just oil change and he can't make money off the oil change
If you want leg room and comfort Vic beats out Harley. Save money Vic doesn't have all the chrome do dads so you can take more trips.

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It's weird but after watching the you tube vids and just comparing the motors, I had no idea how out dated the Harley technology was. I guess I wanted a Harley since I was a kid, but I'm too old to get myself 2k miles away from home on a bike that I know has inherent issues. I know every bike has its ticks & problems, but the Victory motor is just head and shoulders above Harley, bottom line. Thanks again, now to let the wife digest my decision...
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It's weird but after watching the you tube vids and just comparing the motors, I had no idea how out dated the Harley technology was. I guess I wanted a Harley since I was a kid, but I'm too old to get myself 2k miles away from home on a bike that I know has inherent issues. I know every bike has its ticks & problems, but the Victory motor is just head and shoulders above Harley, bottom line. Thanks again, now to let the wife digest my decision...
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One time, an H-D guy said, "that's different." I replied, "those are all the same."
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