I have a 2013 XCT 26,000 miles and I have a heavy rear brake foot. I needed to replace my rear brake rotor as it was loose to the point I could hear it rattle on acceleration. I could lightly ride the brake It would stop so I knew that was my rattle. In fact you could grab it and feel the slack in it. I know me heavy foot and all heating that rotor up so many times finally got the rotor where it couldn't return to its original contracted home SO ......I replaced the rotor with a like new rotor tight as new. Wow it is so smooth now. I can't believe I have had a big vibration and didn't know it until now. The rattle is gone and its smooth as glass. The gradually increasing loosening of rotor and vibration change must have just snuck up on me..
So if you have a vibration and you can not find it check your rotor and see if it is tight.
We all have car mentally when it comes to breaking. Foot on brake.
For motorcycle we have to learn to program ourselves to use front brake first then rear. Rear brake by it self will put you into a skid and crash. Front brake first
It's too bad Vic didn't put the link brake on CC like they did with the vision. Cheap ass Vic
One of the reasons I chose a Victory was because it had front only, rear only brakes. Linked brakes suck when going downhill on gravel. To me, the rear brake is reserved only for trail braking in a curve, hill holding and coming to the last few feet of a stop. Depending on your rear brake can be a fatal mistake.
We don't ALL have a car mentality when it comes to braking. Some of us ride on two wheels a lot more than driving on four, and some of us were riding before we ever drove.
I was riding LONG before I drove. I have always used my rear brake till I am slow enough to put my feet on the pavement. The front brake is my "oh ****" brake... For when some dummy decides that he needs to turn... IMMEDIATELY! It happens all the time
Do not pass GO, do not collect $200, go directly to a rider course and learn how to use your bike's brakes PROPERLY. At least go on Youtube and watch Capt. Crash and Ride Like A Pro videos. You sir, are a go down waiting to happen, if it hasn't happened already.:eek
The basic safety course teaches you to use both brakes together. The Sport bike riders course teaches you to use the front brake properly. The Experienced riders course (for cruisers) teaches you to slow to a stop using the rear brake, using the front AND rear brake together when braking at excessive speeds. They also (in the last 5 years) have integrated the "trailing brake" into the course. I think that throws people off as to when the rear brake is necessary. If you think somebody is going to crash because they use their rear brake properly for a stop light, then maybe you need to rethink your own riding habits.
I have taken all 3 of those safety courses and I have 2 coaching courses under my belt.
Dude... Nobody in there right mind would teach you to use the rear brake first. I stated riding motorcycles at the age of 4. I raced for many years. Rear brake is a no no!
For those who feel that they've never needed a rider course of any kind I'm afraid that changing their mind about their braking technique is akin to convincing a Hillary supporter that Donald Trump might have a few good ideas.
I'd like to take this back to the reference on the so-called linked braking systems or a they were known 40 years ago "Integrated Brake Systems".
I believe that it was Moto Guzzi who introduced integrated brake systems in the 1970's and as you might imagine the industry was reluctant to get on the Italian band wagon at the time. Honda did begin fitting GoldWings with their version of the system in the early 1980's and I purchased an '85 Aspencade that had the system.
I was fully on RICZ's team regarding integrated brakes when I bought that bike and within 20k miles I was replacing one set of pads on the front brakes. When the old Honda mechanic inquired as to "why" I was replacing pads at that low mileage he chastised me for not using the system in the way it was designed (Keep in mind that at that time I was track trained on Beemers and hot rod jap bikes so the front brake was my friend and the rear wasn't something that got used much.) Since I respected and trusted the old Honda wrench I took his advise and started experimenting with the integrated system.
I can tell you from over a 100k worth of experience on that bike in three years that I wouldn't hesitate to buy a bike with the integrated or linked brake system. Dirt roads were/are a non-event as are wet roads. I even rode the Beartooth on that thing on roads that had patches of snow pack on them with no issues.
Although I've owned over a dozen bikes since that Wing I've never had another with an integrated brake system, not by choice. So why don't the manufacturers offer the system on all bikes? Probably for liability reasons which stem from my original comment. For an inexperienced "car trained" rider I think the integrated/linked systems are probably a really good idea. An even better idea would be to go back to the old right hand shift bikes of the 60's & early 70's although the thought of riding around with Triumph brakes gives me the sweats.
It doesn't matter you grew up riding a bike before driving a car.
96% of riders will hit foot brake first and then 20 seconds later hit front brake. You'll find out your to late.
Linked brakes are designed to give you even braking. Its the beginning of ABS brakes. Yes it might not be good on dirt roads but then you don't ride dirt roads like paved roads.
Two fingers on front brake lever will add 20 seconds to your life.
Yes you still have 3 fingers to twist the throttle and hold onto the bars.
Maybe this video will help you understand motorcycle braking.
It doesn't matter you grew up riding a bike before driving a car.
96% of riders will hit foot brake first and then 20 seconds later hit front brake. You'll find out your to late.
Linked brakes are designed to give you even braking. Its the beginning of ABS brakes. Yes it might not be good on dirt roads but then you don't ride dirt roads like paved roads.
Two fingers on front brake lever will add 20 seconds to your life.
Yes you still have 3 fingers to twist the throttle and hold onto the bars.
Maybe this video will help you understand motorcycle braking.
Well said VJ! You must have a racing background... I don't know many riders that use the 2 finger method. It's second nature to me and has saved my ass several times. I only use my rear brake in emergency situation's. I should get in the habit of using it regularly so I don't forget in an emergency.
sportbikers rarely use the rear brake, its generally quite small, but when a friend rented a harley before the brembo brakes he quickly found he needed ALL the brakes he had. my traded 06 porkster had poor brakes as did the 13 dyna i tested before buying my 13 Hammer which had a good single front brake, but its better since i added another!! in moto gp racing the bikes use thicker rotors to handle the heat, like i learned that the rear bagger rotors are thicker!!! right buddy
i use the ebc HH up front + organic out back because the oversize for looks Hammer tyre lacks traction due to less weight per sq in on it making it lock + skid quite easily
Maybe Lightweild is yanking our chains with a bit of sarcasm. I hope so. Because if he isn't and he is the instructor he says he is, he is guilty of misleading his student riders.
BP6666VR, Please understand that in the States, driving is considered a birthright and politicians, if they want to get re-elected, will do nothing to stand in the way of Americans being able to get a drivers/riders license almost just for the asking. My MC endorsement test was "ride around the block and stop in front of me." I kid you not. That was a long time ago and you do have to prove more, but not like most of the rest of the world.
How cool it may seem that getting a license is / was that simple for you guys, i am glad i had to go to school to get all my driving license ... Im some country's you have to put a triangle sticker for 1 year so the public can see there could be a "new driver" in that car,
To stay off topic a bit longer; I don't find it cool at all that its too easy to get a licence to operate a 3,000 pound plus machine that kills tens of thousands of Americans each year. And in Oregon alone, we have over 150,000 counterfeit drivers licences and most are in the hands of illegal Mexican aliens. To add insult to injury, Oregon is now the third state to legalize recreational pot. The crash statistics for THC influenced crashes show a 50% in CO and WA and it going to happen here too. That puts me further on edge when riding in traffic.
I use rear brake when stopped on a hill or to skid in some gravel like some kind of hooligan (keeps my blood flowing).
I wish the USA made defensive driving classes a requirement. Regardless if some millenial or anyone else is distracted or impaired, those around her or him could be better prepared to avoid said asshole who's not paying attention/ is distracted. I drive a car and ride a bike with my head on a ridiculously constant swivel and it's a damned shame that people become so complacent in their own little world! Pisses me off
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