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Will the vinyl leather looking wraps around the crash bars work the same? Just dropped a lot of coin for the bike plus the few accessories and hate to drop another grand on the hard lowers......
No , not even a hint of buffeting reduction .... I tried those first ....

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Hey Vin! In your quest of de-buffeting, are you planning on trying the prototype without the crash bar closeouts?
No I don't I like them and don't plan on taking them off. They angle in so when opened there's a lot of air flow.

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No I don't I like them and don't plan on taking them off. They angle in so when opened there's a lot of air flow.
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Will the vinyl leather looking wraps around the crash bars work the same? Just dropped a lot of coin for the bike plus the few accessories and hate to drop another grand on the hard lowers......
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No , not even a hint of buffeting reduction .... I tried those first ....
As MAGS said, any type of highway bar close out does very little to nothing to reduce buffeting. What those are good for is keeping rain and cold off your boots...which in Texas might not do you much good. Also, if you've been reading the thread, you know that some of the buffeting control options reduce air flow around the engine, which in some cases can make the XC unrideable in the heat...something you better consider carefully being in Texas. Last year I purchased the Vic hard lowers/fairing deflectors and yes they look great and will 100% kill any buffeting but holy shit! they about killed me in the heat. The first time I used them in the heat on a 90+ degree day I fought it for an hour until I had to get off the bike because I was wretching from heat stroke. This happened to me twice....finally I had to sell the lowers(at a big loss) and move on to other options. My XC has given me "heat issues" with any option that blocked flow, but the hard lowers were the worst.
Up until now the options for buffeting control have been limited to hard lowers or ugly fork mounted options, both of which seriously change the aerodynamics of the XC...the effects can be anything from excess heat build up to front end "sailing"(I also experienced this issue with the larger fork mounted deflectors).
With Diamond Jim's "tank wings" and jjpilot's "air dam" there are finally some more discreet options available that get at the source of dirty air flow without blocking more needed flow. So a big thanks to those guys.
I hope threads like this help XC owners find solutions that work for them so they can get on with enjoying all the good points of their bike. As for me, I'm glad after almost two seasons of screwing with this crap and being very close to getting rid of my XC because of the buffeting and heat... I'm actually looking forward to a few more years it
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I hope threads like this help XC owners find solutions that work for them so they can get on with enjoying all the good points of their bike.
Agreed - and they do help. It kind of astonishes me that these beautiful fairing'ed bikes did not come from the factory with just a little more effort put into correcting the turbulence. Style is great but it's gotta work too, and the stock design only worked in the esthetics, not actual riding at the highway speeds where it was INTENDED to excel. And all it takes is some little flares under the forks and tank? Bizarre that we have to sort this out on our own. Thank God for forums!
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The ride to work today was 25 miles of 55-75 MPH. Having the fork deflectors off is great I guess I got used to the way they would push the front end around because it seems so light now. The fork deflectors made a dead air space in front of me while that's good for buffeting it's not for 110*. With the new deflector (cfad central fork air deflector) I get way more air and it's smooth air there's just some "dirty" air at my knees and under my arms so in no way does it have an effect on riding. I rode today with my visor in the 1/2 open position (buffeting before would about taken it off) and there was very little movement.

I held my hand in front of the tank at 65 mph and there's air blowing there so for those thinking it would cut off air to the intake it's not.

So far I see no negatives. This weekend it's coming off for Plasti-Dip followed by bed liner spray.

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The ride home was a lot like the ride to work but I was going into a headwind and did get minimal buffeting but nothing to speak of. Overall so far very good.

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As MAGS said, any type of highway bar close out does very little to nothing to reduce buffeting. What those are good for is keeping rain and cold off your boots...which in Texas might not do you much good. Also, if you've been reading the thread, you know that some of the buffeting control options reduce air flow around the engine, which in some cases can make the XC unrideable in the heat...something you better consider carefully being in Texas. Last year I purchased the Vic hard lowers/fairing deflectors and yes they look great and will 100% kill any buffeting but holy shit! they about killed me in the heat. The first time I used them in the heat on a 90+ degree day I fought it for an hour until I had to get off the bike because I was wretching from heat stroke. This happened to me twice....finally I had to sell the lowers(at a big loss) and move on to other options. My XC has given me "heat issues" with any option that blocked flow, but the hard lowers were the worst.
Up until now the options for buffeting control have been limited to hard lowers or ugly fork mounted options, both of which seriously change the aerodynamics of the XC...the effects can be anything from excess heat build up to front end "sailing"(I also experienced this issue with the larger fork mounted deflectors).
With Diamond Jim's "tank wings" and jjpilot's "air dam" there are finally some more discreet options available that get at the source of dirty air flow without blocking more needed flow. So a big thanks to those guys.
I hope threads like this help XC owners find solutions that work for them so they can get on with enjoying all the good points of their bike. As for me, I'm glad after almost two seasons of screwing with this crap and being very close to getting rid of my XC because of the buffeting and heat... I'm actually looking forward to a few more years it
Thanks PaiN for this detail. Yes, part of the reason I am hesitant on the hard bar lowers is the heat situation. The XC is much hotter than my old hammer and any other bikes I've had.....

Still about as ticked off as it gets with this wind management situation. My ride home today was miserable and I need some sort of solution.....so will keep researching......
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The ride to work today was 25 miles of 55-75 MPH. Having the fork deflectors off is great I guess I got used to the way they would push the front end around because it seems so light now. The fork deflectors made a dead air space in front of me while that's good for buffeting it's not for 110*. With the new deflector (cfad central fork air deflector) I get way more air and it's smooth air there's just some "dirty" air at my knees and under my arms so in no way does it have an effect on riding. I rode today with my visor in the 1/2 open position (buffeting before would about taken it off) and there was very little movement.

I held my hand in front of the tank at 65 mph and there's air blowing there so for those thinking it would cut off air to the intake it's not.

So far I see no negatives. This weekend it's coming off for Plasti-Dip followed by bed liner spray.
vin, how do I get my hands on these cfad's?
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vin, how do I get my hands on these cfad's?
Email this guy direct tell him I sent you.

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