Order some rears from D2MOTO
they ship by mail so it was 4 days getting here. No biggie
they look like good quality. Can't put them in for week or till other bikes get out of the way
Under the heading of closing the barn door after the horse is gone........
I only use the rear brake mostly for fast stops and trail braking in the twisties. When hard braking, the rear wheel would easily lock, so I replaced the OEM HH pads with GG pads and rear braking is much more controllable. FYI--Ido have EBC HH in the fronts.
Been using a set of D2Moto's on the rear for a while, they work fine and I can't feel any major difference from the EBC HH's they replaced. I have a set for the front once that set of EBC's wear out.
So my EBC Double H pads showed up. The package indicates they are for "fast street use" I hope they work for not so fast street use also because my riding style has definitely slowed down.
Kodiak, if you're going from OEM front pads to EBC HH, you will definitely notice a better "bite" feel to them. Not to worry, they are great in every type of riding condition. If you are putting HH in the rear, be vewy, vewy careful. Best to use a gentler rear pad. See my post #4.
Forgot to tell ya to lay a piece of sandpaper on a flat surface and stroke the new pads a few times to rough em up a bit and clean the discs with brake cleaner or alcohol. Be sure to transfer the sheet metal radiators from the old to the new pads if they didn't come with them.
Thanks for the tips guys, I think I'll tackle the install tomorrow. Fortunately I have the ABS because I tend to use my rear brake for the normal stuff and squeeze the fronts in mountains and steep descents. I'll scuff up the pads. I also need to change out the brake fluid this spring.
ABS was put on bikes to save the lives of rear brake abusers like you. Sorry sound like the old codger that I am, but for safety sake, take a rider course or at least watch some Youtube vids about braking. One of these times, your ABS may not save you from your rear braking bad habit. We want to see you hanging around here a lot longer.
Just a question, are you one of those riders that likes to heavy engine brake that doesn't use the brakes until the last minute? I ride with one of those and next thing you know HERE HE COMES because you have no way of know he's suddenly slowing. People get mad but to me that's a very poor riding habit.
Broggers, you'd be doing him a favor to give your bro-in-law the same advice I gave Kodiak. He will enjoy riding so much more when he learns the proper techniques.
That's too bad Broggy. Its guys like him who think they have it handled but really don't. They guys who did take the courses make up their funeral procession. I have seen that too often.
I do engine-brake, but I am also VERY conscious of those behind me. Even if I am engine braking, I hit the brakes enough top activate the brake lights.
Broggyr I believe you said in one of the earlier post that your brother in-law likes to only use the rear brake, and he passes you or goes by you when you are stopping, or something along those lines. I was not quoting you. Personally I would have him ride in front on your rides together or he may end up bumping or slamming into the rear of your bike if your a much better(shorter) and a more controlled braker. I have seen over the years a certain person or persons like to lock up the rear brake in panic situations quite often, referring to some old riding buddies, and a few have "had to lay it down". Now really instead of "having to lay it down" if they had used the front brake, maybe they could have kept the bike up and possibly scratch free, both bike and rider. Some bikes come from the factory with linked disc brakes, now I wonder if only the rear brake works most the time on those bikes? I really doubt it. Cars and trucks come from the factory with all wheel braking (thankfully!). Could you pictures our freeways with semi-riggs having only trailer brakes on their riggs? There is a reason for brakes on both ends of a machine, it is much more effective to use all the brakes thus making stopping distances shorter. Just some of this old farts thoughts...... One more, GP and AMA racing on a track, what brakes do you think those riders like to use to slow quickly for that turn up ahead?
Old habits die hard. Look at those who are smoking (and would rather not). I used to smoke, menthol cigarettes and pipe tobacco cigars. I quit on my own. Many cannot. Or will not. To change, they have to want it themselves. If someone else wants them to change, they'll just dig in harder because they don't want it to appear that are changing for you. You know, the whole pride thing.
Yeah I think it stems from the bicycle days when hitting the front brake would literally launch you over the bars!
Also the Harley choppers of years gone by either had no front brake at all or a very ineffective one.
On my Gpz900r I rarely use the rear brake whereas on the Vegas I tend to use more rear brake, the low centre of gravity comes into play, whereas on the Kwaka the weight transfer is more to the front.
I wonder if rear-brakers are just using their car/truck habits, having assumed that motorcycles brake the same way - just pick up the right foot and put it t on the brake pedal. I've known riders who do just that - pick up their whole foot and leg and then put the arch of the foot on the bike's brake pedal. Then they say that the rear brake is too sensitive because the whole weight of the right leg and foot is pushing on the brake, because they are using car/truck braking habits on a bike.
I was riding motorcycles before I ever drove a car, so I didn't carry over those habits from four wheeled vehicles. The rear motorcycle brake is a TOE brake, not a foot-and-leg brake, and it's for dragging in turns and as a secondary brake for slowing and stopping. The front brake is the main slowing/stopping brake.
About HD: I have only ridden one once. That was a test ride on a Sport Glide in the early 80’s. I was accustomed to a 500cc Honda at the time. That HD had a hard rear brake and even harder, very weak front. The rear brake was weak, but necessary because the front stoppers were almost not there at all. So, I don't know how more-modern Harley's are, but maybe HD riders do carry over the rear brake habits to other bikes, too.
On my Newly second hand CCT there were only 3K+ kilometers on the clock and only the vic sales people ridden that bike... I replaced my rear brake-pads at 6K coz they were completely gone, lucky I had the jackpot stock pads still brand new in a box somewhere....
Strange that motorcycle schools don't hammer that 70 / 30 % brake rule in....
.... It was very difficult and long process to get my Car & motorcycle & Truck driving license... All aspects are done over and over again....
On my Newly second hand CCT there were only 3K+ kilometers on the clock and only the vic sales people ridden that bike... I replaced my rear brake-pads at 6K coz they were completely gone, lucky I had the jackpot stock pads still brand new in a box somewhere....
Strange that motorcycle schools don't hammer that 70 / 30 % brake rule in....
.... It was very difficult and long process to get my Car & motorcycle & Truck driving license... All aspects are done over and over again....
I replaced rear pads on a friend's bike. They were completely gone, he was going metal to metal, but he INSISTED that the hardly used the rear brake. Oh...the fronts were still good to go. Many are oblivious to their bad habits.
This is an older thread, you may not receive a response, and could be reviving an old thread. Please consider creating a new thread.
Related Threads
?
?
?
?
?
Victory Motorcycle Forum
497.1K posts
48.6K members
Since 2007
A forum community dedicated to Victory Motorcycle owners and enthusiasts. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more!