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post #1 of 28 (permalink) Old 05-12-2017, 07:38 AM Thread Starter
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Default Polaris is really trying to push an Indian on me

It seems like weekly i am getting mail from Indian to buy their product. Hell for that matter, Harley is sending me crap too. Victory must sold them mailing lists.
Indian Touring bikes start at $26K? they must going for the yuppie market

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You're not alone I get offers constantly on Indians....Funny thing is none of them would even apply if I traded my Vic because the offers are available only to "original owners", which I am not.

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You're not alone I get offers constantly on Indians....Funny thing is none of them would even apply if I traded my Vic because the offers are available only to "original owners", which I am not.
I am an original owner but those things are way over priced

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Ive taken myself off Polaris mailing list, theres a link down the bottom of their crap.
Harley well I still enter thier competitions, I gotta take one of the new 4 valve tourers for a blat in a few weeks.
Bet it aint got the grunt mines got!
told em the girl bitched about the back seat after 50 miles on the Streetglide we took on a 750km ride.
so I suspect theyll have their plushest seat bolted on.

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I'm getting things in the mail and e-mail from Indian. I think Polaris wants all the Victory riders to go over to Indian. I don't like the Indian motorcycles. I love my Cross Country Victory. Polaris I am not at all happy with you!

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Ive taken myself off Polaris mailing list, theres a link down the bottom of their crap.
Harley well I still enter thier competitions, I gotta take one of the new 4 valve tourers for a blat in a few weeks.
Bet it aint got the grunt mines got!
told em the girl bitched about the back seat after 50 miles on the Streetglide we took on a 750km ride.
so I suspect theyll have their plushest seat bolted on.
tell them if it will hang with yours, you'll buy it. But if it won't you get free gear.
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tell them if it will hang with yours, you'll buy it. But if it won't you get free gear.
but...why would I want HD gear?
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Harley well I still enter thier competitions, I gotta take one of the new 4 valve tourers for a blat in a few weeks.
I haven't been keeping up with Harley since I switched to Victory 7 years ago but I did catch something on one of the blogs about the M-8 being hard to start. Not sure what that's all about.

One of the big things that drew a lot of people to Victory what the value. A really good, nearly bullet proof bike, at a decent price.

I can't speak to the Indian's engine or if it's as good as the Vic Freedom engine but the prices are higher than Harley's so apparently those of us who found Victory a good value are not Indian's target market.

I think they are in for a rude awakening, as is Harley, when they find out less and less people are not only unwilling to shell out that kind of coin for a "motorcycle" but far less of those who can afford it have no interest in bikes anyway and if they do; it will be something like a BMW or Motus; possibly a Ducati or Moto-Guzzi.

I wish Harley and Indian well though. I think their future sales lie overseas where people are finally earning real money and can afford a status symbol like a Harley or Indian. Think China and India. What sells here may not sell there though which is why they both build smaller bikes now.

I still wish Polaris had simply found a buyer for Victory. Someone else with deep pockets who could see the long term potential of these fantastic bikes. Clearly Victory was not enough competition to worry about when they closed it down. Why not sell it and get some of that investment money back. I'm sure the share holders would like that. The Polaris business model is strange. They are not bike people, that are not snowmobile people, they are simply a collection of designers, machinists, engineers, and business people who through some crazy blast of inspiration designed an amazing engine. Not perfect; but still one of the best in class out there. Then all of sudden after acquiring Indian; Victory became the black sheep 3rd cousin Polaris didn't want to talk about. Damn shame.

If Polaris wanted to keep their Victory buyers, the ones who bought them new from a dealership, they would be offering them excellent deals on a trade in for them to buy an Indian but they aren't so that tells the true story. I guess these days an excellent deal on a 2013 XC trade-in with 10k miles would be $10k.
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I got a thing in the mail yesterday to get a free Indian T-shirt if I trade in a competing brand T-shirt. So does that mean I can't trade my one and only Victory T-shirt since Polaris made sure they are not a "competing brand"? I am done with Polaris but plan on keeping my XR for a very long time. I also agree with Bob, if Polaris wanted to keep me as a customer and on a new Indian they should offer a large incentive to trade. I blessed to be able to afford just about any bike I want but I chose my XR because it fit my tall lanky frame better than any other bike plus it was a great value when compared to other full size baggers. I bought my XR new off the floor with all the extras for $13k, hell I couldn't even my second choice for that price (Yamaha Stratoliner). Next bike will probably be foreign even though I would rather buy American.

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I love the styling of some of the indians. A few years ago my wife and I were at the international motorcycle show in Seattle and saw a blue chief with tan leather bags and trim...it was, in my opinion, one of the most beautiful bikes I have ever seen. This was before I bought my vic xc. I didn't bother with an indian though because the one I wanted was just WAAAAAY too expensive, so I put it on the back burner as a hopeful future dream bike sorta thing.
I have not ridden an indian, and really really like my vic. In fact, I LOVE my vic. That old chief would sure have to have some amazing ride quality to get me off of what I have right now.

Everyone keeps talking about getting offers from Indian, I haven't received anything at all...I suppose they know that my public education salary isn't going to cut it so they don't want to waste a stamp. No worries though, like I said before, I am sure enjoying the handling, the power, the styling, the comfort and everything else about that 2014 vic xc of mine and I am not about to put down 26,000 on a bike. Hell, that would be much better spent money on my mortgage so that I can retire a bit earlier and have more time to ride my XC!!!
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