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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 07-02-2010, 03:24 PM Thread Starter
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Girlfriend put it in the ditch today.

Well, i got my new bike so girlfriend upgraded to my old Vstar 650. We went for a ride to medora, 35 miles away and was on 2 lane back road. Girl wanted to follow me so i let her, though i prefer her in the front as she is new rider. She put the bike into a ditch at 55. She is fine, bike has minor cosmetic issues now that r easily fixxed.

Apparantly the vibration in the handlebars is making her hands numb. So she said she could not turn the bike in the curve. She tried to ride it out to a stop but the bike went down at a slower speed and she rolled off in the high soft grass. She has a knot on her leg above the knee and a skinned elbow from the grass.

Is there some something we can do/install on her or the bike to help the numbing?

Hope this is ok to post here, i am just looking for help to make her riding more enjoyable and SAFE!
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Sorry to hear about the mishap but glad to hear your girl is ok.

There are a lot of different ideas with numbness. I went with the ISO grips from Kuryakan. They work for me
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Glad she is OKAY! Check the front tire and it's balance. If its off balance...that could cause vibration. Dyna Beads may help.

If the tire is not wearing evenly...another cause.

And if all else is good, try some grips with a bit of rubber on them like Diamond mentioned.

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Ok, i will look into all these. thanx folks.
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Did you notice a lot of vibration when you were riding it? If so, you may also want to try synching the carbs. My old V-Star gets a lot of vibration around that speed when the carbs are out of synch.

Glad to hear your GF is OK.
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Maybe have her wear gloves with gel in the palm.
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I am thinking i will put the bike in the shop to get the carbs sunc'd, front wheel balanced, get her gel palm gloves, maybe new grips, have the bike looked over 100% and lastly... get her some riding experience!!!!! She has less than 100 miles on a bike in her lifetime.
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I am thinking i will put the bike in the shop to get the carbs sunc'd, front wheel balanced, get her gel palm gloves, maybe new grips, have the bike looked over 100% and lastly... get her some riding experience!!!!! She has less than 100 miles on a bike in her lifetime.
If she's a newbie, the problem is probably just squeezing the grips too hard. As she rides, she will become more comfortable on the bike and will relax her grip and find it much more comfortable.
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Your post brings up a question in my mind. You said she tried to "turn" the bike in the curve. Has your girlfriend taken a basic rider course as offered by the Motorcycle Safety Foundation (http://www.msf-usa.org/)? Given her obvious lack of experience, this course could actually save her life! (BTW, it's mandatory in many states...how 'bout yours?) OPINION: Too many people ignore basic rider training a put themselves and others at risk, too often.

One of the very first things you learn there is motorcycle control techniques and that includes "pushing" the handlebars in the direction you want the bike to go. (This is an edit after some discussion: MSF's Basic Rider Course (BRC) teaches you to apply light forward pressure on the grips of the handlebars in the direction you want the bike to travel. This works best at speed of course. Try it if you don't do it already, just simply push LIGHTLY on the right handgrip and the bike will go right, left to go left.) Trying to "turn" i.e. "steer", the bike is the exact OPPOSITE of what she needed to do, especially in a critical situation like she was experiencing.

So, numb hands or no, it seems that a little bit of training could have avoided this situation. I urge you to help her live long. Get her the training she needs, man.

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Your post brings up a question in my mind. You said she tried to "turn" the bike in the curve. Has your girlfriend taken a basic rider course as offered by the Motorcycle Safety Foundation (http://www.msf-usa.org/)? Given her obvious lack of experience, this course could actually save her life! (BTW, it's mandatory in many states...how 'bout yours?) OPINION: Too many people ignore basic rider training a put themselves and others at risk, too often.

One of the very first things you learn there is motorcycle control techniques and that includes "pushing" the handlebars in the direction you want the bike to go. Trying to "steer" the bike is the exact OPPOSITE of what she needed to do, especially in a critical situation like she was experiencing.

So, numb hands or no, it seems that a little bit of training could have avoided this situation. I urge you to help her live long. Get her the training she needs, man.
Not sure if you are talking about counter steering but that statement is incorrect. You COUNTER steer which means you actually push in the OPPOSITE direction the bike is turning/leaning. If you are going right then you push the bars LEFT.

I 100% agree with Larry that if she has not she should take the MSF class.

The application of counter steer has saved me from two accidents when I was just starting out. One with a cement barrier on the highway and the other with the side of a mountain!!

The other thing is maybe since you were leading this time you were going at a pace that was out of her comfort zone. Let her lead and allow her the time to get comfortable.

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