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Question about lloydz air filter

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#1 ·
I am planning on getting my CCT dynoed in May all night with a PCV INSTALL. I already have a lloydz air filter. My question is what it create an issue if I installed the air filter NOW and have it already n when I get it dynoed?
Thanks
 
#2 ·
I would think you would definitely want to have it installed prior to the dyno - if you build a map prior to filter installation, then the map will not be accurate after you install the new filter.

Generally, do all the work you want first, then go get it tuned.
 
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Het Broggy i see you are on the facebook group.!. How was your winter?
 
#3 ·
No problems putting the air filter in now. The ECU adjusts the fuel to it's pre-programmed A/F ratio and will account for the new air filter.

When you add the PCV later it will override the ECU's A/F ratio thus giving you better performance and a little cooler running engine.
 
#4 ·
Thanks for the reply. I have yet to take the tank out from but I hear that ne needs to be careful with the nipple breaking
 
#8 ·
The fun always ends when you break a nipple. :eek


I had a neighbor watch and clip the zip ties the first time off. There's a disconnect that you can see from the side that's the one I use not the one under the tank.
 
#10 ·
If you have high flow mufflers and add the intake now you risk causing serious damage to
Your motor.
The ECU is programmed to run lean and can only adjust the AFR within its limits it was set at. I would really advise against doing it the way you are planning, unless you plan on not riding it until it's tuned.

You might check with KevinX or Rylan to confirm what I am telling you.
 
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Really?!? With a Stage 1 ECU flash and his O2 sensors disconnected and with the only addition being a Lloydz air filter you think he's gonna smoke a valve or burn up a piston. You guys are full of sh!t!
 
#23 ·
I don't believe Stage 1 pipes mean Tri-Ovals.

In any event, the Stage 1 upgrade also comes with a higher-flow air filter. Lloydz is better than the Stage 1 but it isn't such a big difference as to cause engine damage.
 
#24 ·
The tri-ovals are definitely considered a stage-1 modification. They come with a performance air filter and recalibration card.


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#25 ·
Yes but Vic also made Stage 1 pipes that were not TOs. OP said he has Stage 1 pipes which doesn't necessarily mean TOs.
 
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Copy that, I read it wrong. Somehow I thought you were saying that TOs were not Stage 1, when you were saying Stage One doesn't automatically mean TOs only.
 
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#26 ·
No need to guess I checked it.
When I was tuning my bike ( CC ) which has some partially debaffled exhausts, a loydz filter, timing wheel +4, O2 sensors disconnected for the PC-V and a stage 1 download, I loaded a zero map into the PCV just to see how lean it was with the stock mapping and stage 1 with the mods I had.

On my wideband O2 sensor I saw high 15's and low 16 afr at 65 -70 mph at cruise in 5th and 6th.
I then pulled over and loaded a map into it from my laptop.
End of experiment.
They run really lean at cruise with the stage 1 and any mods to the exhaust. I may have been running the Vic high performance filter and not the Loydz at that point not sure. Their isn't much difference between them till you get it opened up anyways. Being an air cooled motor it has extra cooling capacity at that speed so people do get away with it I guess.
But it is really hard on the engine.
 
#34 ·
If your bike is already apart, then do it. If not, then wait. It's the same either way :)
 
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