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#1 ·
New to the Forum.

Looking at an '09 Kingpin & I have a few questions.
The description states that it's air & oil cooled.
How does that work, and will I encounter overheating problems on hot, humid days?

As you can tell in my Sig, I ride a lot. I am meticulous about upkeep, how many
miles have people got out of their bikes?

Are there any problems I should be aware of?
Here's a link to the bike.

2009 Victory Motorcycles KINGPIN for sale in Hartford, CT. New England Cycle Center Hartford, CT (860) 527-0822

I see it has lowers, but no windshield.

Do those look like stock handlebars?

TIA for your input,

RB.
 
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BTW in the pic, I see the speedo, I assume the 2 other things are speakers(?).

What is the black oval thing in the middle?

I haven't seen the bike in person yet, prolly stop by tomorrow.
 
#3 ·
Oil cooler



The radiator is really an oil cooler. Air flows thru it and cools the oil. Can't help with the other questions. Good luck!
 
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All air/oil cooling means is that, its air cooled engine, with oil running through and around the cylinders and heads for extra cooling. Some models have an additional oil cooling radiator(which this Kingpin seems to have) I believe the bars are not stock and it looks like the head light was changed out to the shield shaped light.

What I'd be most concerned about is not the bike but the dealership selling it.....I wouldn't give the buttholes at New England Cycle Center a dime of my business....
 
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Welcome from Naugy
 
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The only thing I can help you with is the HEAT ISSUES with Victory's , there are non, ... Also there is a Tempeture cutoff switch... So if the bike would EVER overheat, then you just wait and later ride again...

As you understand V-Twin are not water-cooled (for victorys),

so the engine oil pump has a valve to the oil cooler and a small amount will go trough the oil cooler if needed, the old vics had a bigger oil cooler but the engine's did not reach operating temperature, so they made them smaller...

Please note I live next to the Equater, so it is kinda hot here...

Let us know what you decide and welcome to the nicest vic site...

Andre
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Heat

Welcome. Those guys that say don't buy from that dealer should say why (Not disagreein' and not sayin you should or shouldn't just sayin' why not?). As far as Heat I've ridden my Vision in triple digits in a friggin minivan caused traffic jam through Oak city without a hiccup so IMHO heat is not an issue. I've no idea what those black and chrome fangled things are but would like to.

Long may you ride.
 
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Those guys that say don't buy from that dealer should say why (Not disagreein' and not sayin you should or shouldn't just sayin' why not?).
Not to be pigeon-holed as one of "those guys"...... New England Cycle Center has treated me poorly the few times I've been in there. NECC is the type of dealership that can't extended common courtesy to customers, which makes it no surprise that their service reputation sucks as well. They don't have a caring attitude or ethic so, I don't care to do business with them.
 
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Thanks for the input so far.

I'm gonna swing by today & take a look. Couldn't hurt.

Question: Are the valves self adjusting?
 
#12 ·
Yes all the freedom engines have hydraulic lifters.
 
#16 ·
What are you using for oil, oil filters, & plugs

On my X, I use a Bosch filter, and also get my plugs at an Auto-Zone,
about 1/2 the price of the dealer.
 
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What are you using for oil
You're new here so I'll hold them off this time....but know, there are certain questions that MUST NEVER BE ASKED...

 
#25 ·
I had 126,000 + miles on my VTX using T 6 with absolutley no problems.
Also used a Bosch oil filter.
 
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Doin' the research....

... And came across an article that stated the top speed of an '09 Kingpin is 105 mph. True?
(I'm just curious.)
 
#27 ·
I use the T6 and a Bosch 3323


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So the 3323 will fit an 09 Kingpin?
And it takes 5 qts of oil, or did I misread?
(I've read so much my head is spinning)

I just want to know what I'm getting into.
At my age & health, this is prolly gonna be my last bike.
 
#29 ·
I believe the Vic oil filters are the same for all engines.

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#32 ·
There's a "supplied Allen wrench "? Who knew. Just the same you are very correct. Don't forget the crush washer as well.

RB
 
#33 ·
Thanks for all your responses.
And any tips & tricks will be appreciated.

Rick
 
#34 ·
BTW, putting the cart before the horse: I know nothing about FI engines.
I'm pretty sure I'll want aftermarket pipes, and at least A K&N type reuseable air filter, if not an aftermarket intake. How much can I change things before I have to install a fuel controller (If that's the correct term)?
 
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. How much can I change things before I have to install a fuel controller (If that's the correct term)?
Generally the mufflers can be changed for better sound without having to add a fuel controller, once the intake is opened up the fueling has to be adjusted + plus its the only way to get max performance from your upgrades.
@broggyr and I are going to have our bikes tuned by John at Dyno Solutions in New Milford, CT toward the end of March(the 22nd or 29th most likely). If you get your bike set up by then you're welcome to join in. If not, you can always go later, this tuner knows what he's doing and will have your bike running ace ;)
 
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#35 ·
"As tight as you can get it by hand with the allen key" is probably too tight. You certainly don't want to crank on it. Especially if you use a crush washer. If you overtighten it, you'll probably strip it.


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#36 ·
Well its not a competition, I'm sure Arnold Schwarzenneger could strip one!
I get mine as comfortably tight as one can get with a 4 inch allen wrench,
once it starts to cause pain to your hand STOP!
after 50 years of doing up bolts I sorta know when is tight enough
 
#38 ·
Actually, comparing the pic in the link of my OP to pics on the web, I'm wondering if those pipes are aftermarket.
 
#40 ·
Who's knows.....that bike might already have performance upgrades done to it. To my eyes, I see only custom exhaust tips, which tells nothing but they look good ;)
 
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