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Nodnarb
10-26-2009, 11:57 PM
Howdy Y'all,

I'm the new guy here. Don't have a bike yet. Father-in-law (He's a big Harley guy) got me interested in cruisers (I grew up on CBR's and Interceptors).
Long story short: I've heard the sales pitch on these Victory's and I have to say I'm sold for the most part. But I'm wondering, since I can't find any actual proof, if anyone has any dyno data comparing the latest Harley 96, 103 and 110 motors to the Victory 100 and 106.
Mostly it's hard to find the numbers on the HD bikes. I know the Victory website says 97/113 for the Hammer but I'm wondering how real that is. A comparison of HP/TQ to the ground.
Has anyone seen 0-60 times or 1/4 mile times comparing any of these? All the tests seem to gloss over this stuff. I'd love to see a nuts up comparison with all the data.
Okay, I guess that wasn't very short.

Help a brother commit to the new american motorcycle. :)

DMacHammer
12-08-2009, 07:58 PM
I ride a 07 Hammer S with a few internal mods. I have yet to run with any Harley that could stay in the same zip code including 110's. on a good day and a good lunch I will pull just shy of 110 mph in the 1/4 (Old School 1/4 / 4 telephone poles) in 4th gear at the new redline of 6500 before hitting 5th. Stock V-Rod will not keep up in the 1/4 This is real world numbers on the street. A good guess would be 115 hp 120ft just a guess though. I have run with Harley with a peace of paper stating thay have 100 hp to the ground but by 2nd gear it didn't mean much.

stevie3x
12-08-2009, 11:42 PM
in the real world lb. torque is the measurement that
means anything, i would say the reason harley has a hard time is those # meaning torque is not even close, same old story push rod & lifters[ h.d. ] v/s over head cam [ vic ]

not bashing hd they are good bikes, as ive owned plenty, last one for 17 yrs. just got tired of working on it. facts are facts

steve

kevinx
12-09-2009, 06:32 AM
At the tire a stock vic puts out.....
05-07 100" 74HP/97Ftb
08-10 100" 74/95

In S1 trim
05-07 82/100
08-10 78/97

The 106 in the 09-10
Stock 78/97
S1 81/102
All of these are rear wheel numbers. the 97/113 are crank numbers, and off by around 14% on average. Up to 17% on a wide tire bike

Now for an HD let me see if I can post this graph. Nope so here are the numbers
96" Stock 66/81
96" with pipes, and filter 72/81
110" found in a SE bike 80/96

All numbers are from my dyno at work except the 110", and that came straight from the SE catologe

Just for giggles my bike pulls 105/116 with it's current set up

Nodnarb
12-09-2009, 09:43 AM
I ride a 07 Hammer S with a few internal mods. I have yet to run with any Harley that could stay in the same zip code including 110's. on a good day and a good lunch I will pull just shy of 110 mph in the 1/4 (Old School 1/4 / 4 telephone poles) in 4th gear at the new redline of 6500 before hitting 5th. Stock V-Rod will not keep up in the 1/4 This is real world numbers on the street. A good guess would be 115 hp 120ft just a guess though. I have run with Harley with a peace of paper stating thay have 100 hp to the ground but by 2nd gear it didn't mean much.

Thanks for the reply. What internal mods are you running?

Nodnarb
12-09-2009, 09:45 AM
At the tire a stock vic puts out.....
05-07 100" 74HP/97Ftb
08-10 100" 74/95

In S1 trim
05-07 82/100
08-10 78/97

The 106 in the 09-10
Stock 78/97
S1 81/102
All of these are rear wheel numbers. the 97/113 are crank numbers, and off by around 14% on average. Up to 17% on a wide tire bike

Now for an HD let me see if I can post this graph. Nope so here are the numbers
96" Stock 66/81
96" with pipes, and filter 72/81
110" found in a SE bike 80/96

All numbers are from my dyno at work except the 110", and that came straight from the SE catologe

Just for giggles my bike pulls 105/116 with it's current set up

Hey Kevin, thanks for the feedback. What's up with the 07' having more than the newer version? Also, why isn't there more of a difference between the 106" and the 100" motors? It would seem an 07' 100" would be the way to go for the money.

Nodnarb
12-09-2009, 09:48 AM
At the tire a stock vic puts out.....
05-07 100" 74HP/97Ftb
08-10 100" 74/95

In S1 trim
05-07 82/100
08-10 78/97

The 106 in the 09-10
Stock 78/97
S1 81/102
All of these are rear wheel numbers. the 97/113 are crank numbers, and off by around 14% on average. Up to 17% on a wide tire bike

Now for an HD let me see if I can post this graph. Nope so here are the numbers
96" Stock 66/81
96" with pipes, and filter 72/81
110" found in a SE bike 80/96

All numbers are from my dyno at work except the 110", and that came straight from the SE catologe

Just for giggles my bike pulls 105/116 with it's current set up

What all is involved with S1?

kevinx
12-09-2009, 01:09 PM
In 08 Vic dropped compression from 9.8:1 in the 100" to 8.7:1, and introduced the 106 at 9.4:1. Pretty much lost power all around. That said the 106 in S1 trim makes more power in the all important idle to 3500 range; then the peak would suggest.

An S1 set would be some type of pipe, or slip on, a vented intake cover, and a higher flowing panel type filter

Nodnarb
12-09-2009, 01:51 PM
In 08 Vic dropped compression from 9.8:1 in the 100" to 8.7:1, and introduced the 106 at 9.4:1. Pretty much lost power all around. That said the 106 in S1 trim makes more power in the all important idle to 3500 range; then the peak would suggest.

An S1 set would be some type of pipe, or slip on, a vented intake cover, and a higher flowing panel type filter

Thanks Kevin. Do you know why Vic dropped compression in 08? What would the 106 be like with the old compression numbers? Is it possible to change that?

kevinx
12-09-2009, 02:31 PM
Up until 07 Vic was able to run the motors on the rich side, and the extra fuel would keep cumbustion temps down a good bit. In 08 the move to closed loop injection, and the leaner A/F ratio that goes with it. Meant they had to drop compression, or run to hot.

Adding a set of cams, and an intake along with the S1 will make the new bikes perform like the pre 08 bikes, and the 106" shines when given the treatment. Still not up to the earlier bikes with an S&S stroker, but 107+/107+ is not unussual with the right pipe

Nodnarb
12-09-2009, 02:45 PM
Up until 07 Vic was able to run the motors on the rich side, and the extra fuel would keep cumbustion temps down a good bit. In 08 the move to closed loop injection, and the leaner A/F ratio that goes with it. Meant they had to drop compression, or run to hot.

Adding a set of cams, and an intake along with the S1 will make the new bikes perform like the pre 08 bikes, and the 106" shines when given the treatment. Still not up to the earlier bikes with an S&S stroker, but 107+/107+ is not unussual with the right pipe

You're talking 107+ HP/TQ at the wheel right?
I'm looking at picking up a 2010 Hammer S. I really like the 2 into 1 pipe Vic offers. So with cams, this pipe and the intake, I'll be at a stage 2? Do I need to add a PCIII or anything else? Also, do you know what cam and how much that would run?

kevinx
12-09-2009, 03:15 PM
To get those numbers you need a set of Lloydz VM1 cams, intake, and a VFC3 along with the 2-1 pipe. Also with a 09-10 bike you need a set of cam carriers to bolt the cams in place. There is no STAGE configuration for this deal. You leave STAGE behind when you start adding aftermarket parts

Oh yea those numbers are real world. I wish the photo utility was easier to use here; so I could post charts from here at the shop

Nodnarb
12-09-2009, 03:44 PM
To get those numbers you need a set of Lloydz VM1 cams, intake, and a VFC3 along with the 2-1 pipe. Also with a 09-10 bike you need a set of cam carriers to bolt the cams in place. There is no STAGE configuration for this deal. You leave STAGE behind when you start adding aftermarket parts

Oh yea those numbers are real world. I wish the photo utility was easier to use here; so I could post charts from here at the shop

Wow Kevin you're a wealth of knowledge. Thanks. So what's all this do to the reliability of the bike and does this void my warr? What's the price tag on the cam parts/work?

diamondrmp
12-09-2009, 04:14 PM
I'm not as knowledgable as Kevin but I personally know of 3 different engines from 104 up to the lloydz 110 that have been nothing but bullet proof.

About the only way you will have problems is if it isn't built correctly.

kevinx
12-09-2009, 04:28 PM
Wow Kevin you're a wealth of knowledge. Thanks. So what's all this do to the reliability of the bike and does this void my warr? What's the price tag on the cam parts/work?

Done over 60 of these conversions to 106" motors, and have seen ZERO reliability, or drivability issues. fact is the bikes run, and drive BETTER then stock, and MPG remains oretty much the same.
Parts run....
Cams $390
Carriers $450
Intake[Lloydz] $280[I beleive]
VFC3 $265

Labor all depends on who, and where it is being done. Myself I charge $500 to do the whole thing on a steel frame bike, $400 on a 08 Vision, and $600 on an 09 Vision. I fly all over the country one weekend a month doing "Cam parties", and have prolly done more of these then anybody including Lloyd

Nodnarb
12-09-2009, 04:35 PM
Done over 60 of these conversions to 106" motors, and have seen ZERO reliability, or drivability issues. fact is the bikes run, and drive BETTER then stock, and MPG remains oretty much the same.
Parts run....
Cams $390
Carriers $450
Intake[Lloydz] $280[I beleive]
VFC3 $265

Labor all depends on who, and where it is being done. Myself I charge $500 to do the whole thing on a steel frame bike, $400 on a 08 Vision, and $600 on an 09 Vision. I fly all over the country one weekend a month doing "Cam parties", and have prolly done more of these then anybody including Lloyd

Sounds like I'll be giving you a call once I get my bike. What's the best way to contact you and what's the name of the shop you work for?

SMYTE
12-09-2009, 05:41 PM
TI wish the photo utility was easier to use here;

agreed................:mad:

07ACE
12-09-2009, 06:08 PM
agreed................:mad:

when are you stopping by minnesota?

kevinx
12-09-2009, 06:26 PM
Sounds like I'll be giving you a call once I get my bike. What's the best way to contact you and what's the name of the shop you work for?

I work at Polaris of Gainesville in gainesville Florida. My travleing thing is all me though. When you get close drop me a line here, and I'll give you my contact info

Nodnarb
12-09-2009, 09:28 PM
I work at Polaris of Gainesville in gainesville Florida. My travleing thing is all me though. When you get close drop me a line here, and I'll give you my contact info

Sounds like a plan. Hopefully I'll be contacting you within a couple of months.
As I'm looking at the Victory website they state the Hammer S as having a 97HP/113 TQ version of the 106 with stage 2 cams. These are different than what you're talking about, right? If so am I correct in thinking the cams+mods you're suggesting would produce higher returns?

kevinx
12-10-2009, 06:09 AM
Sounds like a plan. Hopefully I'll be contacting you within a couple of months.
As I'm looking at the Victory website they state the Hammer S as having a 97HP/113 TQ version of the 106 with stage 2 cams. These are different than what you're talking about, right? If so am I correct in thinking the cams+mods you're suggesting would produce higher returns?

Those are crank numbers, and not at the tire. The S2 cams are a joke. Again I can't post a chart, but I did a 09JP with S&S intake+swept pipes, and it pulled a wopping 87.7/102.6 at the tire. The Swept pipes prolly cost it 4-5HP, but a 07[100"] would have run 95/100 with the same pipes

DMacHammer
12-10-2009, 07:29 AM
Kevinx I am wondering if you have any knowledge or personal hands on experience with the S&S 114 prototype buildup and what it would cost to have it installed. I will not substitute reliability for performance, fuel mileage I donít care about. You are only 150 miles north of me the drive would be easy.

kevinx
12-10-2009, 08:00 AM
Kevinx I am wondering if you have any knowledge or personal hands on experience with the S&S 114 prototype buildup and what it would cost to have it installed. I will not substitute reliability for performance, fuel mileage I donít care about. You are only 150 miles north of me the drive would be easy.

Visions still seem to be having problems with it, but I have not heard of any issues with the steel frame bikes. If you have a 106. It is a simple bore, and sleeve job so I do not see much in the way of worries about reliability.

diamondrmp
12-10-2009, 10:44 AM
Kevin what are your thoughts comparing the S&S 114 to Lloydz 110 with high compression pistons?

07ACE
12-10-2009, 10:52 AM
Kevin what are your thoughts comparing the S&S 114 to Lloydz 110 with high compression pistons?

i'm not kevin by i've been reserching these kits pretty heavily the past few months and i would say there is not comparison, again in the world of victory, lloyd wins

kevinx
12-10-2009, 10:54 AM
Kevin what are your thoughts comparing the S&S 114 to Lloydz 110 with high compression pistons?

Loyd will have his own 114 on the road very soon, and already has 116 available

diamondrmp
12-10-2009, 11:00 AM
Personally I am biased to the LLoydz packages since I've had experience with them. Kevin has way more experience not just with Lloydz but S&S with other brands. I figure he could give a better review hands on.

DMacHammer
12-10-2009, 11:31 AM
If I remember correctly the 116 has a 14/1 compression. I have been out of the loop for a long time (kids or grown know) but 14/1 does not run properly with on 91-93 octane fuel. And the bore would be running the jugs thin for street applications. Maybe Iím wrong what are your views.

kevinx
12-10-2009, 12:46 PM
If I remember correctly the 116 has a 14/1 compression. I have been out of the loop for a long time (kids or grown know) but 14/1 does not run properly with on 91-93 octane fuel. And the bore would be running the jugs thin for street applications. Maybe Iím wrong what are your views.

More then just one piston, and different gasket thickness can custom it to what you want.

diamondrmp
12-10-2009, 03:00 PM
Hey all since we have a tech forum I'm moving this to it.

Guido
12-11-2009, 06:07 AM
I knew I made the right choice when I left the Harley dealership and walked across the street to purchase my 07 Hammer. Most of the guys I ride with all drive HDs but I've never looked back. It was the right decision

Big V
12-24-2009, 04:08 AM
Have LLoydz 104 kit with a 260 rear tire gets 115 Hp and 115 TQ with Victory's slip ons, this year in the spring time new pipes at least. been no problems at all plus Lloydz is a great guy to work with period........ Harleys sound great as you only have two valves not four, but not much power they just rour as I pass em

VegasRider
04-01-2010, 10:47 PM
Big V, Not sure about HD numbers. From what I've seen, great on bottom end and mid-range torque, but lacking up top. Actual dyno run from last weekend on a 100" Vegas (2006) with Stage-1 drag pipes, S&S intake and S&S ECU reflash. Got 100 HP and 110 FTLB torque.

TheX1049
05-01-2010, 02:51 AM
I have a Vegas Jackpot that has the Lloydz 114 CI kit, upgrade cam, Barsoni exhaust, and a few more tweeks.

It has 125.51 Rear wheal hp and 127.23 rear wheel torque
The dyno was in Daytona which is about 5% less I am told from up north. I also had forged rods and etc to cope with the Nitrous that was not used in the dyno test. I had just 200 miles on the rebuild engine at the time of the dyno tune / test.

I had a short when I tried to use the nitrous at the drag strip and it blew a fuse everytime I tried to use it.

The bike is still comfortable as an everyday driver but packs a surprize. Outword the bike looks stock except it's a Cory Ness Eddition. The Nitrous is tucked away in the removable saddlebag.

I am interested in those who have drag raced their Victory's.
Curious about what kind of ET's Victory's are turning.

Steve Butler

VegasRider
05-01-2010, 10:38 PM
TheX,

Haven't tried running my Vegas on the strip yet. Just to clarify, as modified, my Vegas is putting out 91 HP and 101 LB at the rear wheel.

What kind of times are you getting with your bike?

Mike

bna0atb
05-02-2010, 10:31 PM
I'm installing the 2 into 1 RPW Thor pipes and the S&S air cleaner on my 08 kingpin 8ball. Any thoughts on what reflash file to use? Should I use S&S's reflash for 2008 kinpin 2 into 1 pipes or should I use a cobra fuel programmer to adjust a/f?

bna0atb
05-02-2010, 11:30 PM
Any one try the Lloydz intake tubes? They look great.

VegasRider
05-03-2010, 01:09 AM
bna0atb,

Using the S&S reflash for 2-into-1 exhaust should get you close. A good dyno operator can tell you what your fuel/air ratios look like.

If you want to have the ability to fine-tune your fuel air mixture, I strongly recommend going with the Power Commander, as 1) it allows the mixture to be cut or increased as needed and 2) with the correct model, it will automatically tune your bike using a wide-band oxygen sensor.

Good Luck!

Mike

kevinx
05-03-2010, 06:15 AM
I'm installing the 2 into 1 RPW Thor pipes and the S&S air cleaner on my 08 kingpin 8ball. Any thoughts on what reflash file to use? Should I use S&S's reflash for 2008 kinpin 2 into 1 pipes or should I use a cobra fuel programmer to adjust a/f?

None of the off the shelf maps put enough fuel into the top for that pipe. I would start with the S&S version of the 08 Drag map, and leave the o2's unpluged. This map has more fuel the the 2-1 map right off the bat. I would also add a VFC3 from Lloydz to put some extra fuel on the top

bna0atb
05-03-2010, 11:34 AM
Is this the map to start with
106-2939 2008 Vegas/Kingpin/Hammer/Jack Pot 100CI S&S Air Cleaner/STG I Drag System.
Are you saying not to put the o2 sensors in the pipes?
Also can any victory dealer do the S&S map downloads?
If I go with the drag map download, will I be ok riding it until I do the fuel controller? Thanks for the help.

TheX1049
05-03-2010, 08:24 PM
12's at first - then 11's w/o Nitrous. I am told it should be a in the 10's eventually. My skill level not bike's fault. I am very, very new to drag acing especially motorcycles. I wanted Adam to take a run on my bike but they wouldn't allow any more Runs!

Can't say enough about the local Victory dealer Feedom Power Sports in (Rogers) NW Arkansas ans LLoydz!

Steve from The "X"

TheX1049
05-03-2010, 08:26 PM
Adam is with Lloydz by the way Really nice. By the Joe and the guys at Freedom have been the best too!

TheX1049
05-03-2010, 08:27 PM
VegasRider, thanks for asking any other ET's out there?

TheX1049
05-03-2010, 08:38 PM
Kevin:

My freing backed down and went out with his girlfreind and didn't race but it is all good. I had a blast both days and went to a small airport and used my digital speedo to give et's and mph.
a small peice of my ring broke and made a small scortch in my piston and cylider wall. It's an easy fix.

Getting it repaired now.

What do you hear about intercooled turbos for Victories?

Steve..... Really enjoyed seeing you in Daytona / Orland Drag strip. Come on up to Bike, Babe and Bling around the 4th of July or Bike, Blues and BBQ in NW Arkansas. The 1st is the first woman bikers rally and the 2nd is now the 4th largest Bike get together in the US now and is the last weekend (Wed, Thurs, Fri, Sat and Sunday) of September.

I'll make you a judgeat the Bikini Contest and keep you in beers!

Steve the "X"

poehammer
05-07-2010, 12:24 AM
Hi all I am Chris aka Poehammer. I just sent my heads and cases to lloydz to get mechined. He has the 116cu kit going in it I have a 2005 Hammer at sea Level it should make 145Hp 145Tq to the Tire( 11.0-1 compression on the pistons). I am told I will have a 10% lose do to living in Colorado (Is that true?) I am running S1 kit atm (RPW Big Slash is on a 6 month back order I am told which sucks) the new pipe should give me better numbers. Almost forgot it will have the S&S intake

Any thoughts or Ideas to make this better I am all ears:)

Thanks Chris

kevinx
05-07-2010, 10:14 AM
Hi all I am Chris aka Poehammer. I just sent my heads and cases to lloydz to get mechined. He has the 116cu kit going in it I have a 2005 Hammer at sea Level it should make 145Hp 145Tq to the Tire( 11.0-1 compression on the pistons). I am told I will have a 10% lose do to living in Colorado (Is that true?) I am running S1 kit atm (RPW Big Slash is on a 6 month back order I am told which sucks) the new pipe should give me better numbers. Almost forgot it will have the S&S intake

Any thoughts or Ideas to make this better I am all ears:)

Thanks Chris


Sounds like one hell of a toy!!
The altitude definitely saps an engine by about 10%, but everyone else out there has the same issue.
Moving to the Lloyds Torque Tube intake should definatly be on the list of improvements

diamondrmp
05-07-2010, 10:30 AM
Welcome aboard Chris!!

poehammer
05-07-2010, 01:38 PM
thanks for the welcome and info I will let you guys know what it really makes when I get it back
After alittle call to Lloydz I changed my intake to the Torque Tube. Thanks for the advise Kevinx
Chrischeers

TheX1049
05-07-2010, 09:11 PM
Hi all I am Chris aka Poehammer. I just sent my heads and cases to lloydz to get mechined. He has the 116cu kit going in it I have a 2005 Hammer at sea Level it should make 145Hp 145Tq to the Tire( 11.0-1 compression on the pistons). I am told I will have a 10% lose do to living in Colorado (Is that true?) I am running S1 kit atm (RPW Big Slash is on a 6 month back order I am told which sucks) the new pipe should give me better numbers. Almost forgot it will have the S&S intake

Any thoughts or Ideas to make this better I am all ears:)

Thanks Chris
Chris:
My bike would ha about 132 HP at Lloydz shop in NY but only 125.51 in Daytona. A loss of 5%. Keep me posted on your Hammer. Sounds great! I am thinking about adding a intercooler and Turbo after I get used to ie bored with HP I have.

Steve

poehammer
05-08-2010, 12:12 AM
I will Steve. I just finished reading the Thread about your JackPot
Very nice ride

Chris

bna0atb
05-08-2010, 07:04 PM
I'm thinking for a phase two for my 08 that will have the rpw 2 into 1 and S&S air cleaner to go with Lloydz vm1 cams and 11:1 pistons any idea what hp I could see with that?

poehammer
05-08-2010, 07:32 PM
lloydz has a dyno page
http://www.quickvic-usa.com/dyno.asp
this may help or you could just call them(Lloydz). I think you should consider head work since you have the motor open anyway

cheers

Chris

bna0atb
05-10-2010, 04:24 PM
Do you mean porting of the heads or other things?

poehammer
05-10-2010, 07:07 PM
Yes port, polish Really makes a differance on performance. Result is more air moving threw the motor (more POWER)

Chris

bna0atb
05-10-2010, 10:37 PM
Chris
I'm guessing your bike was backed over by your friends wife or girl friend? The victory dealer tolled me about it last week. Keep me posted on the bike we might have to go riding. I'm working on rpw Thor pipe and s&s air cleaner. Have a dyno guy in the springs dyno tune it.

poehammer
05-10-2010, 11:25 PM
Ya thats me. My buddys wife back into it and knocked it over. (All cosmetic) Danny has the motor out. I am hopeing for the parts back from Lloydz end of this week or next. I think its the Dyno guy across from Rocky that will do the Dyno. I will let you know

Chris

TheX1049
05-11-2010, 11:09 AM
I will Steve. I just finished reading the Thread about your JackPot
Very nice ride

Chris
Thanks. keep me posted about your bike.

TheX1049
05-11-2010, 11:13 AM
lloydz has a dyno page
http://www.quickvic-usa.com/dyno.asp
this may help or you could just call them(Lloydz). I think you should consider head work since you have the motor open anyway

cheers

Chris
Poehammer, I will post my dyno chart after I scan it. I had the bike Dyno tuned in Daytona after the Lloydz work was put together at Freedom Power Sports. Bg, big difference in power.

TheX1049
05-18-2010, 05:34 PM
Poehammer, I will post my dyno chart after I scan it. I had the bike Dyno tuned in Daytona after the Lloydz work was put together at Freedom Power Sports. Bg, big difference in power.
I have between 126 HP and 132HP w/o Nitrous depending wether you do the Dyno in NY or in FL (Lower # being FL). I jsust contacted Lloydz about actually adding the Intercooled Turbo. The nice thing I trade advertising for upgrades like I already had done and repairs besides the advertising they buy from our radio stations. So to go even wilder and faster is not as crazy as it seams but more of a promotion thing for our bike, the station and our wonderful local dealer.

The following is a quote from Lloysz:

"YES, we've been playing with Turbo's also. Having seen some of the other turbo projects out there I stated, "I wouldn't do a turbo unless it made 200 hp!" Then I had someone bite, OOPs, did I just open mouth & insert foot? GNAW! We slammed it home at 193 hp and a clutch that slipped after 2 pulls. We then go so busy we never did finish tuning it, but we know it's capability is well over 200hp! Anyone interested in being the first to twist the throttle on 250hp let us know.

After all - We Are HARD-ON HORSEPOWER!!

Guys how wild is too wild or is there such a thing?



Lloydz Motorworkz, PO Box 11, 25 Railroad Ave, Pine Bush, NY 12566 (845) 744-4889

TheX1049
05-18-2010, 05:48 PM
Poehammer, I will post my dyno chart after I scan it. I had the bike Dyno tuned in Daytona after the Lloydz work was put together at Freedom Power Sports. Bg, big difference in power.
Sorry, already had stronger clutch, Bassani 2-1 Short, VM2 Cams, 11.0:1 Comp., Ported Heads, HOH Tube Intake/ HOH Rev extend, usb fuel management and a few mor things besides the Nitrous.

poehammer
05-19-2010, 06:21 AM
Those are some nice Dyno #s. I am kinda surprised that the #s are higher in NY VS FL. But all great #s either way. I am still waiting on the parts to get back to CO. As soon as I have more info I will let everyone know

cheers
Chris

bna0atb
05-19-2010, 09:23 AM
Need some help with the rpw Thor pipe installation. Having a hard time getting the front pipe between the frnt jug and frame. Any ideas?

TheX1049
06-07-2010, 08:54 PM
Hi all I am Chris aka Poehammer. I just sent my heads and cases to lloydz to get mechined. He has the 116cu kit going in it I have a 2005 Hammer at sea Level it should make 145Hp 145Tq to the Tire( 11.0-1 compression on the pistons). I am told I will have a 10% lose do to living in Colorado (Is that true?) I am running S1 kit atm (RPW Big Slash is on a 6 month back order I am told which sucks) the new pipe should give me better numbers. Almost forgot it will have the S&S intake

Any thoughts or Ideas to make this better I am all ears:)

Thanks Chris
Chris, did you get your bike back yet? Keep me posted.

Steve

poehammer
06-07-2010, 11:37 PM
Nope called Lloydz last week to see whats going on. They say its in the works. But I still do not have a date when parts will be shipped back so I can play yet :(

Chris

TheX1049
06-18-2010, 08:42 PM
Loyd will have his own 114 on the road very soon, and already has 116 available
I have the 114 on 2009 Victory Vegas Jackpot Cory Ness Edition. It's great!

TheX1049
06-18-2010, 08:46 PM
Nope called Lloydz last week to see whats going on. They say its in the works. But I still do not have a date when parts will be shipped back so I can play yet :(

Chris
Chris:

Unfortunately Lloydz is really, really busy. It took a while to get my cylinder re sleeved. Let me know how it is coming along.

Did you send your whole bike or just your engine there?

TheX1049
06-18-2010, 08:53 PM
Those are some nice Dyno #s. I am kinda surprised that the #s are higher in NY VS FL. But all great #s either way. I am still waiting on the parts to get back to CO. As soon as I have more info I will let everyone know

cheers
Chris
I don't remember what Adam and Lloyd said if it was density or what but I know it is a fact. Your bike will scream. Which pipes did you wind up getting. I really like the Bassani 2 into 1. It is really interesting looking at the hp graphs on the dyno page on Lloydz web site to see how much pipes like RPW and Bassani help and how much some others hurt. Again by the way I have both a set of the stock pipes for a Victory Jackpot and the thw swept pipes with unter a couple of hourson either one if anyone needs them.

poehammer
06-18-2010, 09:04 PM
Well Lloydz is trying to get me a set of Big Slash by RPW by the time all the work is done. If those don't come threw I will get a set of Bassani 2:1 with the parts.

What I sent to Lloydz, Heads and Cases. I have to admit that Lloydz customer service is Awsome. I think its Rana that I talk with and she goes above and beyond for me

cheers
Chris

TheX1049
06-18-2010, 09:21 PM
Hope you get your bike soon. You'll get a kick out of it. Are you going to try and race it or get your thrill on the streets or both?

poehammer
06-18-2010, 11:00 PM
I am going to ride Street more then anything. Liveing in Colorado we have great roads to ride and enjoy. But I will take it to Denver to the open drag nights at Banimere. Once its broken in to see what she can do:)

cheers
Chris

TheX1049
06-19-2010, 12:32 AM
Keep me posted. You will really enjoy the bike.

Joe Schmoe
06-24-2010, 12:45 PM
OK, early on in this thread I saw where someone was wanting a dyno sheet to see REAL WORLD numbers...Here you go...All work was done by KevinX...
It's hard to read but I have 108.7 HP and 112.9 ft/lb torque
http://www.lcdrt.com/motorcycles/Vision/after_tuning.jpg
Sorry for the light lines...blame that on KevinX's printer!!

poehammer
06-24-2010, 01:16 PM
Those are some nice #s Joe. What did you do to get them?
TheX1049 got a call from Lloydz today, they are starting to ship all my stuff back :)thumb up So soon I will get to play with my rebuilt toy HELL YA

cheers
Chris
PS I will post a Dyno once I get it done:)

Joe Schmoe
06-24-2010, 01:21 PM
Those are some nice #s Joe. What did you do to get them?
TheX1049 got a call from Lloydz today, they are starting to ship all my stuff back :)thumb up So soon I will get to play with my rebuilt toy HELL YA

cheers
Chris
PS I will post a Dyno once I get it done:)

KevinX put a set of Lloydz cams in (I think VM1), VFC3 fuel controller, and air intake plate to my stock 106"...That's it NOTHING ELSE!! thumb up

Oh an di got to eat some of the BEST PORK CHOPS in the US!!

poehammer
06-24-2010, 01:25 PM
That is great. I am happy to see good #s without intake and exhaust
MMMMM pork chops damn it you made me hungry

cheers
Chris

TheX1049
07-05-2010, 05:56 PM
That is great. I am happy to see good #s without intake and exhaust
MMMMM pork chops damn it you made me hungry

cheers
Chris
Chris:

How is your bike coming?

Steve

poehammer
07-06-2010, 08:36 AM
I have all the parts a Rock Moutain except for the Heads and Exhaust. Once they get here the fun will begin:) I must say the Torque Tubes look cool off the bike aswell as on lol

cheers
Chris

TheX1049
07-06-2010, 03:40 PM
I have all the parts a Rock Moutain except for the Heads and Exhaust. Once they get here the fun will begin:) I must say the Torque Tubes look cool off the bike aswell as on lol

cheers
Chris
Great, keep me posted.
I started riding mine. It's even faster with more torque. I have over 600 miles on it. I want to take it the track and use the nitrous again but I am going to wait until 1,000 miles this time. If you aren't doing anything please come to our Bikes, Blues and BBQ the last week of September. It is the fourth largest motorcycle event in the country. It is in Fayetteville, AR. It is in the NW corner on the state.
Steve