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Issues with new (to me) Jackpot - possible bad battery?

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#1 ·
My '06 Cory Ness JP arrived yesterday...I was totally stoked! Unfortunately once they got it out of the trailer and tried to start it no go. It came from ~90 degree sunny Arizona weather to the 20's here last night in Chicago and transport to delivery time was close to a week and a half with no trickle charger. I hooked up my charger last night and set it to automatic mode and it was showing the battery charged. I hooked up my multimeter and was showing up to 12.6V. Ended up plugging in the Battery Tender which will show red when its charging the battery and green when it in maintain mode...showed red last night and green this morning before I left for work.
Just got home today and went to give it another shot....turned the key to ON, waited a few secs...the headlight powered up then the digital tach and the fuel pump relay started clicking. If I try the start button everything dims so it's apparently a bad battery that got shocked by the cold. I'm planning on picking up a new one tomorrow from any store that's open....just have 2 questions:

1 - any recommendations on "best battery"...I know it's subjective, but if you've had bad experiences with any particular brand I'd love to hear it...

2 - is the fuel pump relay clicking a normal occurrence with a bad battery, not getting enough juice to prime? I'm just hoping there's nothing else wrong. The guy I bought it from was very meticulous and the bike started up without a blip as evidenced by the shipper before he loaded it in the trailer.

Thanks guy!
- Joel
 
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#2 ·
Before you buy a new battery check the battery cables. My 06 would loosen up and then it's a no go. If they are tight check the voltage regulator connection. Mine came loose when I first got the bike and it was a nightmare. Good luck.
 
#3 ·
Dave is right. Disconnect the battery terminals and clean them good with a wire brush or sand paper. I normally put some dielectric grease between the battery terminal and whatever is the first eye connection/cable.

Vic's are very finicky when it comes to a weak battery or bad connections. More so on the newer models but since all Vic's are EFI; they are all sensitive to it.

Sorry. Can't recommend the best battery. Seems like a crap shoot most the time to me.

I personally have never heard a fuel pump click. It either spins right up or it doesn't in my experience. Starters click when there isn't enough battery power though.

Maybe someone else can give more insight to this issue...
 
#8 ·
Thanks for the help guys. Here's an update....
Had some time this afternoon to delve into the bike. Checked all the connections, took the battery ground off (allen screw to the block forward of the battery) checked it and screwed it back on....nothing changed. The battery was still reading 12.8V. Ended up taking it to the part store and the load test showed ~1V output so it was gone. Picked up a new one, set it up and had it charging the last 6 hours. Just installed it and rolled it out to the driveway to crank.
I don't recall if I mentioned this in the 1st post or not, but the bike has a Dynojet PC 3 and was tuned in Arizona (~90 degree weather) prior to me buying it. Right now it's in the 30's here.....so....cranked it a few times and it ended up turning over (those pipes are loud!) and the exhaust smelled really rich (which I've read is typical for warm up....and as the temp is so cold right now). So it ran for a minute or so then died. Tried cranking it again and wouldn't turn over. I'm wondering if it's due to the weather and the tune on it right now...not getting enough fuel to fire??? I don't know.....I'm too used to carbs on the last bike.

- Joel
 
#10 ·
Not sure that is it. Seems weird that a change in weather did all this. I would now check plugs. Also did you check oil? Wondering if too heavy of a weight for those temps
 
#11 ·
Hey Bob - I just need to find someone I can trust with tuning....I'm not capable :eek:

Dave - good call on checking plugs....I'll hopefully have time after work tomorrow. As far as oil...the owner said he was using Royal Purple and he believed it was 20w40.

- Joel
 
#12 · (Edited)
Sounds like it wont stay running because its too lean. Whether thats due to the tune being off for your climate or some other issue(like a vacuum leak) you'll have to figure out.

If its the tune, getting the bike warmed up should be the hardest part. Once its warm, it should run on its own. Have u tried cranking and keeping the bike at 1500 rpm or so to for a few secs?? Shouldnt take more than 30-45 secs to have it idling on its own.
However, if u hear poping dont stay on the throttle. Thats preignition, not good for the motor.

If u have a bad enough vacuum leak, hhe bike could have similar symptoms or may not run even when warmed up as the mixture will be too lean at any engine temperature. Check the rubber vacuum caps and rubber throttlebody adapter for cracks.
 
#13 ·
Thanks for the reply Marius...that would make sense....
I got to thinking and I think I mis-typed that it was running rich....the exhaust was a little smokey and I'm thinking it was most likely lean (which would make more sense)....the exhaust smelled pretty strong. Temps right now are around 34 degrees F, and the bike in the garage is reading ~45 degrees F. It's supposed to be upwards of 60 degrees this weekend here but of course I'll be at the firehouse both Sat. and Sunday and by the time I get home it'll be probably in the 40s ugh.......

- Joel
 
#14 ·
The reason I don't think its the tune is I have the PC system and I have been in 110 degree heat and been out North at 40 degrees and no issues whatsoever. Hate to ask and don't yell and me but did the seller drain the tank before shipping?? Some JPs have really bad sense of fuel. Hope it is something simple. Before paying someone for the tune private message Kevin X on this forum. The guy is amazing at figuring out what your problem is. He has helped me a few times and has never been off. cheers
 
#15 ·
Just wanted to update the thread. Turns out changing the battery requires a throttle reset, and not knowing that yesterday when I tried to start it I ended up fouling the plugs. Soooo.....after new plugs and the throttle reset I finally got my first ride on the new scoot. Amazing bike, between the loads of power and the fat tire I'm gonna have to learn to ride all over again.....I love this bike!

- Joel
 
#16 ·
Good call Dave.....it wasn't the tune. And last night I did make sure the tank was fueled lol....but good call, I'm sure it's happened before. KevinX is the Vic Man! He's the reason it's running right now and I can't thank him enough. He suggested checking the plugs (as I fouled them yesterday) and he also mentioned replacing the battery necessitated the throttle point reset!

Thanks for your help and thanks to everyone else who threw in their 2 cents! Happy to have the bike running!

- Joel cheers
 
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