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Old 11-04-2012, 02:18 PM   #1121
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I am calling BS on Herman Cain.


Since we are all Americans. Pretty interesting an Aussie is telling Chris Christie what to do. Love to hear Christie's response



Now the fun part. You guys are so predictable. I ask you one simple and I mean simple question. Instead of answering it you do your predictable BS. Okay one more time. Name a program that a righty has out into play that benefits our country. Since 1930. Name one! Come on your all poly science majors shouldn't be soooooo hard
Conservatives don't create programs. They execute their responsibilities as defined in the Constitution.
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I agree!

Truly, when all the facts come together, FNC will also be putting that info out. I have not found FNC to lie.
Then you haven't looked very hard. They lie about virtually everything. I could care less if they want lower taxes, me too. That has nothing to do with anything. The are simply propaganda put out to further the interests of very rich people.

Someone mentioned the other day that there was a story on 60 minutes once that ended up being biased against Bush. I don't recall it being a lie as much as insufficient research of the evidence. Either way, CBS fired everyone involved.

People on Fox OTOH, make sh*t up on a daily basis and NEVER even acknowledge the BS let alone resign or get fired. THAT is the difference.

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Old 11-04-2012, 02:27 PM   #1123
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Great article by an intelligent right winger regarding this very topic today:

This election has always been a referendum on Barack Obama. For some, not on matters of substance. They can't have it both ways. It's hypocritical to distribute a vicious, false narrative about him while fancying yourself a patriot and a great American. Vilify a sitting president of the United States with fiction and innuendo, and you are neither.

I objected when George W. Bush was the subject of undeserved, hyperbolic criticism, but the baseless scorn heaped upon President Obama makes Bush's detractors look diplomatic. The president, the office, and our nation deserve better.

It's been unrelenting. The day after Obama took office, Rush Limbaugh told Sean Hannity he wanted him to "fail." Later, Glenn Beck called the president a "racist" with a "deep-seated hatred of white people." Donald Trump's birtherism took hold while words like socialist were uttered with increased frequency. And a prairie fire of falsehoods spread through the Internet suggesting, among other things, that Obama is a Muslim or that he refused to recite the Pledge of Allegiance, paving the way for Dinesh D'Souza's fictionalized "documentary" 2016: Obama's America, which characterizes Obama as fulfilling the anticolonial agenda of his father -- a man he literally knew for just one weekend!

Among the usual memes used to undermine the president is the threat of some apocalyptic cataclysm, usually in the form of an assertion of federal power, like the seizing of guns. These predictions demand unthinking acceptance of the notion that the president, like a bizarre Manchurian candidate, is saving his nefarious agenda for a second term that might never arrive. By my count, the website Snopes.com has evaluated and debunked 103 of 124 Internet assertions about Obama.

Just before Hurricane Sandy hit, Ann Coulter called our sitting president a "retard," Sarah Palin mocked his "shuck and jive shtick," and John Sununu openly questioned Gen. Colin Powell's weighty endorsement as being motivated by race. At least earlier in the campaign there was some effort at camouflage. Such as when Mitt Romney aired an anti-Obama welfare commercial that falsely suggested Obama supported handouts ("they just send you your welfare check") when, in fact, Obama was accommodating requests of several governors, two of them conservative Republicans, to try new ways to put people back to work. A similar sentiment was expressed by Romney when he maligned the 47 percent who don't pay federal income taxes, overlooking that 83 percent of that group are either working and paying payroll taxes or they're elderly.

And, almost daily, there have been dire warnings about Obama, often with sirens, from the Drudge Report. Example: the Sept. 18 edition featuring a hideous picture of Obama (eyes closed) emblazoned with the all-capped quote: "I ACTUALLY BELIEVE IN REDISTRIBUTION," a 14-year-old excerpt that conveniently excised the future president's explicit embrace of "competition" and "marketplace." No wonder I routinely field calls from radio listeners who, with no hint of embarrassment in their voices, say things such as "I call him 'comrade'" or "he's not my president."

Their best evidence? Obamacare -- crafted by the same people who wrote Romneycare. Critics ignore that the Affordable Care Act is premised upon personal responsibility and was born in a right-wing think tank. Politifact, the Pulitzer Prize-winning website of the Tampa Bay Times, called the idea that Obamacare represents a "takeover" of the health care system the 2010 Lie of the Year. And while some have also labeled the president a "socialist" for signing the $831 billion stimulus, no one ever used such language when Bush acted similarly with the $700 billion TARP.

In the final days, the critics have turned to Benghazi, drilling down on the shifting narrative regarding the killing of the U.S. ambassador to Libya, but ignoring that, as the Wall Street Journal reported on Oct. 22, "The CIA was consistent from Sept. 13 to Sept. 21 that the attack evolved from a protest." There's another problem with the criticism. Romney now gets intelligence briefings, too. Perhaps that's why he took a pass on this kerfuffle when Libya was the first question at the final debate.

So why the attention on the recent 9/11? Perhaps to deflect attention from Obama avenging the first 9/11. Most disturbing, the president's critics have sought to diminish that achievement by treating his order as a no-brainer. As a candidate in 2008, Obama was roundly criticized when he said (to me and others) that he would act on intelligence regarding the al Qaeda leader even if he were in Pakistan. To Bush that was "unsavory." To John McCain, that was "naive." Hillary Clinton said this was "a mistake." Joe Biden said Obama "undermined his ability to be tough." And Romney regarded that pledge as "ill-timed" and "ill-considered." Imagine the criticism Obama would have faced if the mission had failed.

The reality is that there is much to be admired in the president and his rise to power. Replace Kenya with Poland or Germany, and you'd have observers rightly saying that only in this country could such a career path be possible. He is a loving husband and father who, with the first lady, is ably raising two daughters in the glare of the White House. He is an intellectual heavyweight. And his personal ethics have been above reproach.

Real patriots vote for or against candidates based on substance, not smears.
You liberals read something like that and say "Yes", we thinking conservatives see a dozen holes in such a pro-Obama disertation...

He begins with a 'you shouldn't point out obvious flaws of a sitting president', I know, he says vilify. Of course we should, when there's so much to point out.

Limbaugh wanted the president to fail, yes, he wanted his socialist policies to fail, no conservative would support such polices.

Hannity called him a racist, if he did there's certainly enough words out of Obama's own mouth to support that (listen to his audio book).

Trump's birth certificate investigation, along with Sheriff Arpio's, show it's a fake birth certificate, not too many people care, even Fox news, strange but true.

Obama is a muslim, well he was one when he went to school in Indonesia, that's a fact, and there's a bit of a punishment in Islam to switch from Islam to Christianity.. Obama says the Muslim call to prayer is "the most beautiful sound in the world", slipped up and said "my Muslim faith" and had to be corrected by Stephenopolis, said he's visited all 57 states in the U.S., (a 57 muslim state slipup)...

... Obama trying to fullfill his father's anti-colonialist agenda... again, listen to Obama's words in his book "Dreams from my father".

... seizing guns... Obama has an anti-gun, anti-second ammendment agenda, note his supreme court choices, you'll see that in action if he's given another term.

... falsely suggesting Obama supports handouts... ah, the millions more on food stamps..

The author seems to doubt Obama's support of redistribution of wealth, I guess Obama's own words aren't convincing enough.

The author seems to think conservatives supported Bush's wild spending... wrong again, even that idiot Rush Limbaugh pointed out that Bush error, among others.

Killing Bin Laden, yeah, conservatives would like to give praise where it's most deserved, the military who did it, and the Bush/Cheney policies that got the intelligence that led to Bin Laden. (Oh, I know, they had to 'torture' THREE people), by pouring water on them, terrible. If Obama had had his way we wouldn't have gotten the info, or Bin Laden.

And your Obama author's ad for Obama ends with...

He (Obama) is a loving husband and father who, with the first lady, is ably raising two daughters in the glare of the White House. He is an intellectual heavyweight. And his personal ethics have been above reproach.

And Mitt Romney? I'll bet while raising his children he didn't talk about children as 'punishment', and if Obama is an 'intellectual heavyweight' that gives smart people a bad name, oh, Romney went to Harvard too... and personal ethics... I don't imagine you remember Obama's shady land deal in Chicago, his friendships with communists/socialists/terrorists etc., yeah, above reproach to the deaf and blind.

You can keep your ridiculous articles and your excuse for a President.
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Old 11-04-2012, 02:28 PM   #1124
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Exactly, one is a Constitutional Law Professor and the other is a Wall St hustler. I think you finally got something correct Lance.
I believe he was a guest lecturer not a professor. Exageration is his stock in trade.
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Steivei wouldn't know if they didn't tell him anyhow.
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Step 1 in your recovery. Realize that Fox tells lies for ratings. Ratings pay their bills and their audience doesn't mind being lied to. Believing their dramatic foolishness is not of any benefit to your life.

Here's the detailed timeline.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinio...d93_story.html

I'm sure if you were running things it would have came out like a Rambo movie with your guys on top, but we are stuck with mere mortals making decisions. You play with fire, sooner or later you're bound to get burned.
What a crock o shit. It took them 7 weeks to write that bullshit.
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It's called a joke. It's funny because there are actually people who believe such nonsense.
It's only a joke if a Liberal says it. It becomes unacceptable racism from the mouth fo a Conservative.
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Well with 30,000 showing up for Romney you guys have this won. Congratulations.

BTW nothing like a blind joke to get everyone in a good mood. I personally this conservative movement as a pretty bad picture of America.
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