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Old 10-04-2012, 12:42 PM   #31
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The Jackpot isn't a poor handler just because of the tire, they got the rake trail and entire geometry wrong. My Yamaha Raider had a 240 and more rake and handled fine.
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Old 10-04-2012, 01:24 PM   #32
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just put a metzeler 260 on my pot and compared to
the dunlop it handles way better,so much easier to
initiate a turn. just take it easy for awhile,this is a
cruiser not a sport bike and when you get ready
to spring for a new back tire definately get the
metzeler (if you shop around you can get a pretty
decent price on one),i found one for $340.00 mounted
,balanced,out the door. i agree that it is like driving an
old muscle car (its a real mans bike).
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Old 10-05-2012, 08:24 PM   #33
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Well, after 7600 miles(1822 on one trip) and one year I will say this. The jackpot does require more effort to turn than the Vegas, but as far as one of the posters saying this is just a bar hopper bike, I disagree. Before going on our Gettysburg, blue ridge parkway trip I thought I should have bought a cross country. after halfway thru the parkway I was Very glad I bought the Jackpot. To each there own. I learned very early, lean when going into the corners.


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Old 11-01-2012, 08:49 PM   #34
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FWIW - It's not necessary the back tire/size as much as the front AND rear tire/rim combo. A good test would be to ride a JP and a Hammer back to back.

Certainly a different ride...just better or worse, just different. As stated, a bit of counter steering and hip placement go a long way.

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Old 11-24-2012, 03:59 PM   #35
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I guess I'm one of the lucky ones.... the only street bike I've ever owned is my 2012 Hammer 8 Ball. I suppose if I rode a narrow tire bike, I would probably cross the center line on every left hand turn. LOL
On the bright side, it's pretty stable in the wind compared to my buddies on their narrow tires. Although 2 weeks ago I rode in my first heavy winds, and WOW. I was amazed how far I was leaning over to keep it straight.
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Old 11-24-2012, 05:15 PM   #36
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In my humble opinion Dunlops suck. I have had them on my Harley and now on my Victory and both handled poorly. When I switched to Metzs on my HD it was like a completely different bike. Too few miles on the Dunlops on my JP but once I get around the 5,000 point off they come and Metzs will be my replacement tires.

As far as handling I am more comfortable with the handling of the bike but slow turn corners are still a weird feeling. Good luck.
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When I switched to Metzs on my HD it was like a completely different bike.
I wouldn't put Metzelers on a home-built mini bike, but that's just me.
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In my humble opinion Dunlops suck. I have had them on my Harley and now on my Victory and both handled poorly. When I switched to Metzs on my HD it was like a completely different bike. Too few miles on the Dunlops on my JP but once I get around the 5,000 point off they come and Metzs will be my replacement tires.

As far as handling I am more comfortable with the handling of the bike but slow turn corners are still a weird feeling. Good luck.
Silly tire sizes suck. The Dunlop E3s work marvelously on bikes with standard tire sizes.

And to the guy who thinks X bikes are girlie because they handle well compared to his bike with the show bike wheels, I'd suggest he just let about 25 lbs of air out if his wife's tires. That should make him happy as a hog in slop as her bike will handle like crap too!

Busa makes a good point about the Raiders working well with their big tire, but I'd bet they'd be a lot more responsive with a 180 on the back too. The Raider also has a wider front tire (bigger contact patch) that should give it more bite so that the rear can't push it around so easily.
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I agree 180s handle better but you buy a JP because of the look. Overall it handles well just not great. I had a Vrod with 180 and switched to Metz 200 and standard front. Bike handled better, nicer ride and I felt way more confident in sharp turns. All a matter of what tire suits your bike and riding style.
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I agree 180s handle better but you buy a JP because of the look. Overall it handles well just not great. I had a Vrod with 180 and switched to Metz 200 and standard front. Bike handled better, nicer ride and I felt way more confident in sharp turns. All a matter of what tire suits your bike and riding style.
How did you feel about the exhaust on the V-rod? When I test rode one, that thing really cooked my right calf. It had the fat tire on it and was the worst handling bike I ever rode. The Hammer seemed like a race bike by comparison.
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