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[lawnstriper]

Your missing the point . The constitution give us the right to bear arms . You are going against that , not upholding it like you swore to do


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[saddlebag]

Originally Posted by lawnstriper

Your missing the point . The constitution give us the right to bear arms . You are going against that , not upholding it like you swore to do

Where the hell did you get that idea? I'm not against the right to own a gun. But technically, the Constitution says you have the right to do it as part of a militia. You see, back when that was written, there was no money or desire to maintain a permanent standing army. When Paul Revere came a callin you were supposed to go do your duty then get back to business. That was before it became a lucrative career path.

[lawnstriper]

Why do I even try .............. You are hopelessly lost ...... Can't help you brother , sorry
Least I can say is Ride safe ..... I'm out


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[CrossRoads]

Originally Posted by saddlebag

I hate to deflate your bubble, but the military *IS* the gov't.

There are a few countries around the world where the military is the government - it's called a military dictatorship, just like the one Saddam Hussein ran in Iraq, and just like the one Kim Il-sung runs currently in North Korea.

[CrossRoads]

Originally Posted by saddlebag

Where the hell did you get that idea? I'm not against the right to own a gun. But technically, the Constitution says you have the right to do it as part of a militia. You see, back when that was written, there was no money or desire to maintain a permanent standing army. When Paul Revere came a callin you were supposed to go do your duty then get back to business. That was before it became a lucrative career path.

Yes, the constitution encouraged us to join a militia and for defending yourself against bears and robbers you were supposed to throw rocks...

Maybe the freedom of speech wasn't what it meant either - maybe it mean you have freedom of speech when you're home, and nobody's around to hear you.

[saddlebag]

Originally Posted by CrossRoads

There are a few countries around the world where the military is the government - it's called a military dictatorship, just like the one Saddam Hussein ran in Iraq, and just like the one Kim Il-sung runs currently in North Korea.

Oh will the ridiculous misconceptions ever end? Apparently, public education really is lousy these days...

Dept of Commerce is the gov't. It doesn't run the country. The EPA is the gov't. It doesn't run the country either. Dept of Education ditto. And while the military is the gov't here in the USA it does not run the country either. Though for a while during the Bush/Cheney regime I was waiting for them to institute Martial law (military law) due to the threat of terrorism.

[saddlebag]

Originally Posted by CrossRoads

Yes, the constitution encouraged us to join a militia and for defending yourself against bears and robbers you were supposed to throw rocks...

You do not have the "right" to possess a car. It is a privilege. Similarly, guns for bear protection could be a privilege that could be taken away for things like being a felon or a drug addict. Oh wait, we already do that! Some call out the Lance/Bbob militia and send them to our rescue!

Originally Posted by CrossRoads

Maybe the freedom of speech wasn't what it meant either

Shout "fire" in a crowded theater and see how "free" you are afterward.

[CrossRoads]

Originally Posted by saddlebag

Oh will the ridiculous misconceptions ever end? Apparently, public education really is lousy these days...

Dept of Commerce is the gov't. It doesn't run the country. The EPA is the gov't. It doesn't run the country either. Dept of Education ditto. And while the military is the gov't here in the USA it does not run the country either. Though for a while during the Bush/Cheney regime I was waiting for them to institute Martial law (military law) due to the threat of terrorism.

So, after insinuating I am dumb (thank you saddlebag), please shed some light into how the Department of Education is the government. I cannot wait to hear it, so I can congratulate my wife, a teacher, on her promotion. By the way, is the Department of Transportation also the government? How about the Department of Consumer Affairs?

[saddlebag]

Originally Posted by CrossRoads

So, after insinuating I am dumb (thank you saddlebag), please shed some light into how the Department of Education is the government. I cannot wait to hear it, so I can congratulate my wife, a teacher, on her promotion.

http://www.ed.gov/

See that ".gov" bit on the end of the URL. That indicates it's a gov't website.

And unless your wife works for a private school she is a gov't employee, but at the state level.

Originally Posted by CrossRoads

By the way, is the Department of Transportation also the government? How about the Department of Consumer Affairs?

http://www.dot.gov/

I think the Consumer affairs is a state thing, but yeah, it's still gov't.

http://www.dca.ca.gov/

[saddlebag]

Originally Posted by CrossRoads

So, after insinuating I am dumb (thank you saddlebag)

And don't be pissed about this, you are the one who attempted to turn my comments into nonsense about bears and robbers.