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So.....you posted a news article without comment you have nothing so say about it?

OK I'll start then the guy has a ton of money and is pissed off.

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So.....you posted a news article without comment you have nothing so say about it?

OK I'll start then the guy has a ton of money and is pissed off.
Sorry I apologize.
Haven't had time to devote to writing good posts so I am trying to keep what I say to a minimum. I really don't write well.

The other day some folks here were talking about the new Rushmore line from HD. I didn't post because what I had to say was negative and there is enough negativity in the world already. When I saw this I remembered those posts.

I looked at a Rushmore briefly just before buying my X bike.
Antifreeze cooling the heads on a TC just seemed to be asking for trouble and I was pretty certain that new owners would get stuck for the bill for a half finished project as has often happened with anything HD has released in the past. The owners of the CVO 110's didn't work so well when they were new.
Most owners rode from dealer to dealer having the cylinders and head gaskets replaced. The design was defective because the company cheeped out during production of the cylinders. The exceptions to the unfinished bikes were the EVO sportster and the VRod. They actually worked not too badly out of the box.



I bashed HD when I first came here a couple of times and have been trying to hold my tongue since.
But this class action law suit is one of at least 3 now being fought by HD. One case has been in court since 2003. I think if HD spent less on lawyers and just a little more on implementing the wishes of their engineers in their production bikes they would have a wonderful product to reward their loyal followers with. That does not seem to be the Harley way unfortunately.

I find the whole thing pretty disgusting and also very discouraging.

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So one guy has over flow problems and his dealer was no help.
I wounder how many others are joining him or is he by him self.
I ride with 4 guys that have new Rushmore cvo's and no problems.
There not very fast and different dealers told them the water cooled heads is mainly there to keep riders cool.

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So one guy has over flow problems and his dealer was no help.
I wounder how many others are joining him or is he by him self.
I ride with 4 guys that have new Rushmore cvo's and no problems.
There not very fast and different dealers told them the water cooled heads is mainly there to keep riders cool.
Could be.
However I would doubt it is just one person who had a problem.
I know that the class action suit on the extreme heat issues that made some years TC's virtually undrivable was not isolated to a single individual. That HD offered special underwear for riders of bikes in that year to deal with the heat, in their accessories catalog was telling.

The cam chain class action suit was based on a problem that affected everyone who owned a TC from 1999 to 2006 when HD redesigned the chain and tensioner system because it was soooo unreliable. They never offered any relief to earlier owners though.

Perhaps you should carry some radiator stop leak in your saddlebag just incase when you go riding with those guys. Could come in handy.

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Sorry I apologize.
Haven't had time to devote to writing good posts so I am trying to keep what I say to a minimum. I really don't write well.

The other day some folks here were talking about the new Rushmore line from HD. I didn't post because what I had to say was negative and there is enough negativity in the world already. When I saw this I remembered those posts.

I looked at a Rushmore briefly just before buying my X bike.
Antifreeze cooling the heads on a TC just seemed to be asking for trouble and I was pretty certain that new owners would get stuck for the bill for a half finished project as has often happened with anything HD has released in the past. The owners of the CVO 110's didn't work so well when they were new.
Most owners rode from dealer to dealer having the cylinders and head gaskets replaced. The design was defective because the company cheeped out during production of the cylinders. The exceptions to the unfinished bikes were the EVO sportster and the VRod. They actually worked not too badly out of the box.



I bashed HD when I first came here a couple of times and have been trying to hold my tongue since.
But this class action law suit is one of at least 3 now being fought by HD. One case has been in court since 2003. I think if HD spent less on lawyers and just a little more on implementing the wishes of their engineers in their production bikes they would have a wonderful product to reward their loyal followers with. That does not seem to be the Harley way unfortunately.

I find the whole thing pretty disgusting and also very discouraging.
Very well written.

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Sorry I apologize.
Haven't had time to devote to writing good posts so I am trying to keep what I say to a minimum. I really don't write well.

The other day some folks here were talking about the new Rushmore line from HD. I didn't post because what I had to say was negative and there is enough negativity in the world already. When I saw this I remembered those posts.

I looked at a Rushmore briefly just before buying my X bike.
Antifreeze cooling the heads on a TC just seemed to be asking for trouble and I was pretty certain that new owners would get stuck for the bill for a half finished project as has often happened with anything HD has released in the past. The owners of the CVO 110's didn't work so well when they were new.
Most owners rode from dealer to dealer having the cylinders and head gaskets replaced. The design was defective because the company cheeped out during production of the cylinders. The exceptions to the unfinished bikes were the EVO sportster and the VRod. They actually worked not too badly out of the box.



I bashed HD when I first came here a couple of times and have been trying to hold my tongue since.
But this class action law suit is one of at least 3 now being fought by HD. One case has been in court since 2003. I think if HD spent less on lawyers and just a little more on implementing the wishes of their engineers in their production bikes they would have a wonderful product to reward their loyal followers with. That does not seem to be the Harley way unfortunately.

I find the whole thing pretty disgusting and also very discouraging.
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Very well written.

Agreed, but they have sold a bunch and a few are having problems so it's hard to say if it's widespread. We rarely speak of the good but will stomp our feet at the bad.

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Agreed, but they have sold a bunch and a few are having problems so it's hard to say if it's widespread. We rarely speak of the good but will stomp our feet at the bad.
So true.
I try to turn negatives into positives.
and I rarely watch the news...well never actually, but its hard not to when its on the browser of my computer.

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So one guy has over flow problems and his dealer was no help.
I wounder how many others are joining him or is he by him self.
I ride with 4 guys that have new Rushmore cvo's and no problems.
There not very fast and different dealers told them the water cooled heads is mainly there to keep riders cool.
There were actually a lot of them that had that problem. From what I've read, most seem to be fixed now though. It wasn't a design flaw, but part issues.




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The other day some folks here were talking about the new Rushmore line from HD. I didn't post because what I had to say was negative and there is enough negativity in the world already. When I saw this I remembered those posts.

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Antifreeze cooling the heads on a TC just seemed to be asking for trouble
Not sure why, BMW just did it on its RT and bumped up the compression of it injecting another 15 or 20 horsies. All the magazines thought it was a fantastic upgrade.




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