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post #1 of 65 (permalink) Old 12-31-2015, 03:14 PM Thread Starter
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My wife and I are interested in a number of hand guns. We recently complete the Florida CCW class which included about an hour of range time. Other than this, we have little experience with guns although we are strong believers in individual 2nd amendment rights. I would appreciate your opinions on the following.

We are looking to buy four guns:
1) Concealed carry gun for me - often to be worn in inside pocket of motorcycle vest when biking.
2) Concealed carry gun for my wife
3) Home protection gun
4) 22LR cal. in roughly same frame size as home protection gun for practice at lower cost for the ammo.

My opinion is that it would be simpler to get guns 1, 2, & 3 in the same caliber for ease of stocking ammo. From my limited research, 9 mm seemed the best compromise on caliber. The local gun shop told me that given our relative inexperience with guns, they recommended that all four guns should be from the same manufacturer and model line. This would give them all about the same operation, disassembly, cleaning, etc. so we would be more at ease with all of them. This seemed a wise idea. The gun shop sold many brands but recommended either the Ruger or the S&W brands. Within these, they recommended the following along with the prices they initially mentioned.

Ruger:
1) LC9 - my subsequent research suggests the LC9S would be better due to the much smoother and lighter trigger pull - $375
2) LC9, same as #1 but for my wife. She is a strong woman and will have no problem with the gun especially since the LC9s has the very low trigger pull.
3) SR9 - $475
4) SR22 - $390

Smith & Wesson
1) M&P Shield - Seemed too large for comfortable carry - $530
2) M&P shield, same as #1 but for my wife
3) SD9 - $350
4) M&P 22 - $400

I liked the feel of the LC9s much better as a carry weapon than the M&P Shield but did not actually get to test the trigger pull yet. I will plan to do that before actually buying should I choose that gun.

The Ruger's seemed a bit lower in cost than the S&W.

Anyway, that is what I learned in my investigation during today's visit to the gun shop, named "The Gun Shop" They also told me that they had a lifetime warranty on guns they sell (seems an incredible offer- too good to be true?) and include a year membership in their indoor range ($100 value). I would greatly appreciate your input.

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I'm a S&W guy all the way . I like Ruger , actually named my Rotty that before I got my little guy Magnum . See a pattern here Vin ! I feel like Ruger products are more " Clanky " and less refined then the Smith arms .... Although my Ruger Blackhawk .44 Magnum is a staple in my arsenal . If you want stopping power I also recommend .40 cal over 9mm , might just be me though . You really cant go wrong either way in the end .

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Does the Gun Shop have loaner pistols that you can shoot in their range? If not, find a shop that does and test as many as you can. Brand uniformity, to me, isn't as important as modularity. Glock has a wide array of frame sizes and calibers to choose from. And because they are so popular, many 3rd party companies have created parts that can be swapped in and out while performing flawlessly. With that said, ruger has stepped up its quality in the past decade tremendously, but still, I'd would test a lions share of guns before buying one.

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Thanks, guys. Doobliss, what is "modularity"? The Gun Shop has some loaner guns to test fire. These include a couple of the ones on my lists above (Ruger LC9 and Ruger SR22). I do intend to test shoot some of these. Thanks.

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I have an LC9 and don't much like it. It is small and easy to carry though. I think it would be easier to hit a perpetrator at 25 yards by throwing the gun at him rather than shooting at them.
I also have a Springer XD40 that I love that is easy to shoot and very accurate. But it is too big to carry concealed for me.
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Thanks, guys. Doobliss, what is "modularity"? The Gun Shop has some loaner guns to test fire. These include a couple of the ones on my lists above (Ruger LC9 and Ruger SR22). I do intend to test shoot some of these. Thanks.

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Modularity probably wasn't the best word. A description would be better: easy (and cheap) to modify or work on. 4 of my friends carry compact glocks that have a 70 dollar "drop in" trigger in them that makes shooting stupidly smooth and consistent. It's nice knowing you have options like that, instead of buying a different gun. Whatever you decide, practice makes perfect.

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For home protection itd be hard to go past a short barrel shotgun wouldnt it?
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My recommendation would be what ever you use to carry use for home defence that way you are very familiar with the firearm whenever you need to use it. Hopefully never. And Practice practice practice. Take as many classes as you can and most importantly know the laws in your area.

Springfield makes some very nice pistols that can be concealed easily with different magazine sizes.
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I agree with Doobliss, shoot as many guns as you can before you actually purchase one. That being said, both Ruger and S&W have stepped up their quality. As far as getting a .22 for practice, I'm a firm believer in "train as you fight" so I would recommend practice with what you are going to carry. The debate on what caliber to get is forever on-going and everyone has an opinion on what the best is. I say shoot what you can control and how quick you can get off follow up shots that still end up on target .40 cal is a nice round that is very easy to shoot. I carry a SIG P220 (.45) however it's a pain in the A** to carry concealed but I manage.

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If I may offer some advice from experience in this subject... The particular pistol you get for yourself and wife is irrelevant. What is much more important is that you get some professional training. Without it you might end up shooting each other or someone else you love.

Just getting the permit is scratching the surface of what you need to know and learn.

See if your local gun dealer can point you in the direction of some good professional training.

I wish it was as simple as learning how to ride a motorcycle which we all know isn't simple at all. We need to learn how to read traffic to stay alive. I guess in a way knowing how to ride safely and knowing how to own, use, and operate a gun safely isn't all that different.
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