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Default Indian just went big.

Check out the other forum. Indian just went big.... 111ci.

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This new engine design may be just what Indian needed. I like how they have incorporated the old motor look with modern technology. Now if they can keep the price line down to move some units.

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Well, if you ride motorcycles because you like the way they sound at idle, Polaris has hit another home run as this one sounds terrific.

I'm going to keep my fingers crossed and hope that Polaris markets these bikes to the "customizer" crowd and takes Vic back for us "function first" disciples.




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Well, if you ride motorcycles because you like the way they sound at idle, Polaris has hit another home run as this one sounds terrific.

I'm going to keep my fingers crossed and hope that Polaris markets these bikes to the "customizer" crowd and takes Vic back for us "function first" disciples.
Well... there seem to have been a lot of concessions made to appearance and tradition... 2 valves/cyl? 3 cams on a chain drive? Pushrods? Buddy, downward facing exhaust was a consequence of how crappy the heads were back in the day. Side mounted intake? Form over function...

The reason I ride what I ride is function. The path from the throttle body to the intake valves is a straight shot. 4 valves, overhead cams... engineered for efficiency.

They went with a 101mm bore and 113mm stroke. Really undersquare design, which again, I think is a mistake. The engine should be square or a little oversquare and have a rod ratio around 1.7:1... but hey, no one at Polaris cares what I think.

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"The dawning of a new age in American motorcycles will finally be here."

Well, ain't that a kick in the balls.

Anyway, Pop is in. I like my form and function in equal measure. At this point I don't care what the frame and tin amount to. If it's not to my liking I have a sprung Springfield frame and a bunch of Gilroy tins in a shed up in NH that I can attack with a gas axe to dress out that new mill. I sad in 2002 that the Powerplus was a fair interim descendant to the Springfield mill but that the compromises forced by federal bancruptcy court requirements were too restrictive. This is what happens when those requirements go away and the evolution is allowed to take its course.

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I read no more throttle cables. Bet the Vic will be that way. Better throttle response and cruse control will be twice as good.
Maybe some primary improvements but didn't see any thing ells that the Vic motors could use.

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Better throttle response
Have you ridden a throttle by wire HD? Response ain't that great...

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i like the fact that they are building this like a good car engine, plain bearings, solid crank, timing chain, gear drive. these should last a while.

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Have you ridden a throttle by wire HD? Response ain't that great...
The reviewers of the new Triumph Explorer were downright disgusted with the new wireless throttle. Apparently, Triumph must have figured out the problem as they were very complimentary of the same system on their new Trophy sport-tourer. As I recall, the problem with the Explorer was that it was too responsive, making it hard to hold a steady pace.

The whole idea is a little worrisome to me. Living near a large Air Force base blasting high frequency electromagnetic energy of all sorts that frequently kills my XM, I'm not sure I want to be the EMI test pilot of such a system on a motorcycle.




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