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After reading about em going better with air in the tyres I checked em 8 and 12
Pumped to 25 and 32 and top speed went from 80 kph to off the dial on a slight downhill.
I thought I better change the oil too, so I did, and checked the spark plug which looked ok.
Rode over the mountain was slowish up at 40-50 kph bit fantastic on the way down.

Tonight I thought I'll ride to Kingscliff, on the freeway as I know I can hit 100 kph the speed limit.
Was flying along the motorway and thought I better stop to fuel up as I'd coved nearly 100 kms that's 300 kms in the last 3 days...great.
Slowing for the turnoff lane for the BP I glanced in my mirror, huge cloud of smoke behind me!
Turned my head to look over my right shoulder and in the headlight bean of the following truck I could see lots of smoke!
Oil smoke!
I pulled into the BP servo, and positively filled up with fuel, noting the oil dripping out profusely from underneath.
The truck that had also stopped for fuel pulled up the driver walked over and said it looked like I'd dropped s ring the way it started smoking, I reckon he's right
Anyway ten kicks later after paying for 3 litres of fuel the bike fired up! I threw it into gear and headed to the roundabout to turn for home, no point pushing on to Kingscliff with a stuffed engine.
Wishful thinking has me heading for home with clouds of smoke behind me.
My speed drops to 80 kph then 70 then 60 then it picks up s little to 70 just before the Tugun tunnel.
Suddenly the back wheel is locked and skidding to a halt
Then as it got slower it freed up and I rolled to a stop near the top of an offramp.
Rang the GF who owns the bike and broke the news to her, now I sit at the roadside waiting for her to finish work and come pick me up, could be an hour so I'm writing this.
I'm in an emergency stopping Bay a out a kilometer past the tunnel having pushed the bike to here.
Sitting here quite a few bikes have passed but none stop to see what's wrong, times change hey.
Anyway it don't matter, maybe a truck or a ute will stop, if it does it does and we can throw the bike in the back if it
It's about 5 miles home I suppose, I've thought of pushing the rest of the way but no. Sanity prevails I'll wait for Ali to come here in her little Hyundai Lantra station wagon and we will see if the C90 fits in the back of it.

So I'm contemplating pulling the barrel piston and head off other c90 the first one we bought the one I honed and put new rings and gaskets in.
Well either swap all the good bits, or it might be easier to just swap engines...
So here I wait,
And contemplate,
The C90s fate. .
Resurrection coming,


It was running so well before it blew too.......
Guess they always do.. .... .... ....

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After reading about em going better with air in the tyres I checked em 8 and 12
Pumped to 25 and 32 and top speed went from 80 kph to off the dial on a slight downhill.
I thought I better change the oil too, so I did, and checked the spark plug which looked ok.
Rode over the mountain was slowish up at 40-50 kph bit fantastic on the way down.

Tonight I thought I'll ride to Kingscliff, on the freeway as I know I can hit 100 kph the speed limit.
Was flying along the motorway and thought I better stop to fuel up as I'd coved nearly 100 kms that's 300 kms in the last 3 days...great.
Slowing for the turnoff lane for the BP I glanced in my mirror, huge cloud of smoke behind me!
Turned my head to look over my right shoulder and in the headlight bean of the following truck I could see lots of smoke!
Oil smoke!
I pulled into the BP servo, and positively filled up with fuel, noting the oil dripping out profusely from underneath.
The truck that had also stopped for fuel pulled up the driver walked over and said it looked like I'd dropped s ring the way it started smoking, I reckon he's right
Anyway ten kicks later after paying for 3 litres of fuel the bike fired up! I threw it into gear and headed to the roundabout to turn for home, no point pushing on to Kingscliff with a stuffed engine.
Wishful thinking has me heading for home with clouds of smoke behind me.
My speed drops to 80 kph then 70 then 60 then it picks up s little to 70 just before the Tugun tunnel.
Suddenly the back wheel is locked and skidding to a halt
Then as it got slower it freed up and I rolled to a stop near the top of an offramp.
Rang the GF who owns the bike and broke the news to her, now I sit at the roadside waiting for her to finish work and come pick me up, could be an hour so I'm writing this.
I'm in an emergency stopping Bay a out a kilometer past the tunnel having pushed the bike to here.
Sitting here quite a few bikes have passed but none stop to see what's wrong, times change hey.
Anyway it don't matter, maybe a truck or a ute will stop, if it does it does and we can throw the bike in the back if it
It's about 5 miles home I suppose, I've thought of pushing the rest of the way but no. Sanity prevails I'll wait for Ali to come here in her little Hyundai Lantra station wagon and we will see if the C90 fits in the back of it.

So I'm contemplating pulling the barrel piston and head off other c90 the first one we bought the one I honed and put new rings and gaskets in.
Well either swap all the good bits, or it might be easier to just swap engines...
So here I wait,
And contemplate,
The C90s fate. .
Resurrection coming,


It was running so well before it blew too.......
Guess they always do.. .... .... ....
Bike Killer! You're an anti-Bike-ite! We need to protest you now.

Glad it turned out OK. Had a bike engine seize on me once and when that wheel locked it kicked and threw me like a wild horse.

The beauty of the little Honda is that you can STILL get parts for it. My buddy has an older 200 or so Honda from the 60's and he needed parts. Called the local Honda dealer and lo and behold...they ordered the damn part and he had it in less than a week.

Hell, I could barely do that with a 3 year old Vic when they were solvent and alive.

Just fix it up, few hundred bucks and scraped knuckles..you be back beating on it in no time at all!

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My favorite bike C90.... It's broken, she deserves to be fixed, and made prettier while at it...

This will be a happy memory later on.

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When the oil is leaving... and there is no automatic oil replacement system... eventually it will lose all its oil and seize up.

The bike was gonna be towed home... either before (when you noticed the smoke) or after (when you seized it up)... might as well have called someone with a truck from the gas station and saved yourself an engine.

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Yeah it's cool, just managed to get the C90 in the back of the Hyundai wagon, silly me had filled it with petrol in the hope of it making it home..
Bike was almost in the back of the wagon and fuel starts running out everywhere!
Drag bike back out and remove the cap and tip the bike on its side and let a gallon pour onto the road.
Then we struggled cursed and swore and got it in.
Fortunately I have another C90 that I honed abd re ringed and haven't got running yet so I'm just gonna swap the engine over for now.
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When the oil is leaving... and there is no automatic oil replacement system... eventually it will lose all its oil and seize up.

The bike was gonna be towed home... either before (when you noticed the smoke) or after (when you seized it up)... might as well have called someone with a truck from the gas station and saved yourself an engine.
Yes, that would've been the sensible thing to do, or buy litre of oil and fill it up again.
I gambled itd make it home....and lost.
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Kingpin USD Forks
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Pretty sure most of those C90 parts are still being made, if not from the states I think you can still get them from the Asian market.


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After reading about em going better with air in the tyres I checked em 8 and 12
Pumped to 25 and 32 and top speed went from 80 kph to off the dial on a slight downhill.
I thought I better change the oil too, so I did, and checked the spark plug which looked ok.
Rode over the mountain was slowish up at 40-50 kph bit fantastic on the way down.

Tonight I thought I'll ride to Kingscliff, on the freeway as I know I can hit 100 kph the speed limit.
Was flying along the motorway and thought I better stop to fuel up as I'd coved nearly 100 kms that's 300 kms in the last 3 days...great.
Slowing for the turnoff lane for the BP I glanced in my mirror, huge cloud of smoke behind me!
Turned my head to look over my right shoulder and in the headlight bean of the following truck I could see lots of smoke!
Oil smoke!
I pulled into the BP servo, and positively filled up with fuel, noting the oil dripping out profusely from underneath.
The truck that had also stopped for fuel pulled up the driver walked over and said it looked like I'd dropped s ring the way it started smoking, I reckon he's right
Anyway ten kicks later after paying for 3 litres of fuel the bike fired up! I threw it into gear and headed to the roundabout to turn for home, no point pushing on to Kingscliff with a stuffed engine.
Wishful thinking has me heading for home with clouds of smoke behind me.
My speed drops to 80 kph then 70 then 60 then it picks up s little to 70 just before the Tugun tunnel.
Suddenly the back wheel is locked and skidding to a halt
Then as it got slower it freed up and I rolled to a stop near the top of an offramp.
Rang the GF who owns the bike and broke the news to her, now I sit at the roadside waiting for her to finish work and come pick me up, could be an hour so I'm writing this.
I'm in an emergency stopping Bay a out a kilometer past the tunnel having pushed the bike to here.
Sitting here quite a few bikes have passed but none stop to see what's wrong, times change hey.
Anyway it don't matter, maybe a truck or a ute will stop, if it does it does and we can throw the bike in the back if it
It's about 5 miles home I suppose, I've thought of pushing the rest of the way but no. Sanity prevails I'll wait for Ali to come here in her little Hyundai Lantra station wagon and we will see if the C90 fits in the back of it.

So I'm contemplating pulling the barrel piston and head off other c90 the first one we bought the one I honed and put new rings and gaskets in.
Well either swap all the good bits, or it might be easier to just swap engines...
So here I wait,
And contemplate,
The C90s fate. .
Resurrection coming,


It was running so well before it blew too.......
Guess they always do.. .... .... ....
Dude...that just sux! I hope you get it fixed!

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Dude...that just sux! I hope you get it fixed!

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Mate,, it'll be fixed before you know it.
Today is the day I spend time with my eldest daughter then afterwards I'll pull the engine out.
Its only an hour to get it out at the most.
I have a my c90 with re ringed and honed engine gathering dust, I'll swap it in.
Then pull the other down and assess the damage,
Worst case scenario I can get a Chinese Lifan 125cc engine for $300 brand new, just a fuckaround with a couple things to fit it. Namely 12 volt CDI engine going into a 6 volt bike.
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Sounds good! I miss tinkering!

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