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Electric vehicles have been a curiosity for me since early on. As we see electric cruiser style bikes being developed it becomes more of a reality but they all have the same drawback as the electric cars; range. Toshiba appears to have found a way to fix that with a battery that can recharge in 5 minutes. Imagine a 220 mile range with a stop every 180-200 miles to stretch your legs and let the car/bike recharge in about the same amount of time it takes to fill up and squeegee the windshield now. Even highway rest stops could have these charging stations or maybe emergency charging stations.

Folks; it's starting to look like E-Vehicles, bikes and cars, will go mainstream before the next USA Presidential election. This will change everything. A while back I was saying we are due for a technology jump forward. This could be it if it's found to be safe and reliable. Plus they are good for 10 years. The US energy needs will make a significant shift from gasoline to electricity. By 2030 gas cars will be outnumbered on the roads. Fossil fuel powered vehicles will likely be limited to pick up trucks and some tractor trailer rigs.

It's entirely plausible gasoline vehicles will be phased out for civilians by 2040 or 2050 at the latest. It sounds like a long time from now but then I remember when the year 2000 sounded like a long time in the future too and now it's almost 18 years ago.

Your thoughts? How soon will motorcycle manufacturers switch to electric? Will motorcycles be the last gas powered vehicles on the road for civilians?

Toshiba's new fast-charging battery could triple the range of electric vehicles

Remember; e-vehicles require hardly any maintenance with tires and brake pads being the most replaced item at just every 50k miles (or more) on cars these days. Bikes; more often.Long term ownership costs will be very low. No worrying about gas going bad in the tank or carb. No cables to lube or adjust; just a throttle rheostat. Just a belt possibly and bearings. I wonder if they will put some kind of sound making device on e-vehicles going slower than 40 mph so pedestrians can hear them coming...

State and Federal governments will be crying for more tax money they lose from gas and diesel to fix the roads. This might offset the savings from e-vehicles vs fossil fuel vehicles.How will this affect our electric needs at home? Will these battery banks be in most homes charging up during low need times then used during the day to heat and cool; the biggest energy users? Will advanced tech solar arrays recharge these batteries making every home nearly energy independent at some point?This would take the pressure off electric companies to produce the added needs.

Yep; could very well change everything. The bottleneck would likely be cost and availability of raw materials to make these batteries.

Maybe Victory orphans will soon have lots of company...

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Interesting. I guess I'm one of the few watching this issue with interest right now.

Maybe when it goes more mainstream....
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Now this! This could solve the issue of hard to find lithium. The combined tech could be the answer. Salt-based batteries.

Sodium-ion battery beats lithium for cost effectiveness
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I think for electric vehicles to really become mainstream, the technology will have to progress to the point where making the decision to own/drive an electric vehicle doesn't force you into a position of compromise. I think the technology is really neat, and look forward to where it achieves some parity with gasoline. I have been fortunate to demo a couple of electric bikes, and they are a lot of fun to ride. But the range is just a showstopper for me. Too much compromise. I will be interested in how this tech develops, for sure. I could definitely see electric being an alternative if they improve battery tech to where it makes more sense.

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Off the topic, I have always looked into a way to take my house off the grid, solar and wind are my only choices out my way for power, but Geo thermal I can do for the heating and cooling.

I think it might be a big chunk up front, but the cost down the long run should actually put money back in my pocket hopefully within five to seven years. Once the house is 100% paid off I am looking into it a lot more in depth.


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Bbob, I am watching this issue and the autonomous car thing too, with great concern. The current issue of Car and Driver magazine lends 31 pages, broken into a few articles, to it with the question; Is driving going to be dead? The last of those articles uses the music we listened to vs the music today's teens listen to as an analogy for what is happening with cars.
Countries such as England and Germany have mandated fossil fuel burners out by 2030. In the States, Congress is dealing with laws concerning autonomous vehicles. Its looking like we enthusiast drivers/riders are eventually going to be looked upon as we see the Neanderthals.
I take pleasure in the fact that my generation has experienced the best there was to be had in popular music and as a motoring enthusiast. I was reminded of that last night - I took Pretty Wife out to dinner and they had a satellite radio station piped in that played soft jazz and it was playing the old standards I heard throughout my years. You know, the songs you could understand the lyrics to and the melodies that you hummed or whistled when they came to mind. And now I am just an analog man in a digital world. Still have a flip phone, camera, laptop, radio and a TV fed by an antenna.
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Another gorilla in the room is car sharing. Its becoming the popular thing especially in cities and negates the need to own a car. Even the mfrs are tooling up to supply vehicles for this agenda. In Portland, you see several brands of shared cars parked all over town, only to be used when one absolutely has the need to transport their body. Otherwise, they contact their 2,000 closest friends via their phones.
When we were teens, we NEEDED that car to go see our friends, but today's teens no longer have to do that as they are already in contact with them virtually, and that seems to be sufficient for them. Consequently, fewer teens (and those in their twenties) bother to get drivers' licenses. As a result, bike and car mfrs are scrambling to come up with models that appeal to those millennials. Even the staid Toyota Camry, the darling of the Geritol set, has gotten the Star Wars treatment in order to draw in younger customers. Then there are all the 250 -350 cc bikes that have popped up on the scene to entice the youngsters. Its a changing world out there and its changing faster than I can keep up - as if I wanted to.

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I hope I'm around to get a electric car. I think it would be a lot of fun. Now I have ridden my bike several times and shut off the motor just to see what it would be like if it was electric. No noise just wind rushing around my ears. To think of all the companies that will be lost if they perfect the electric bikes.
I'm guessing the government is working on a sound that all the electric thing would have to make.

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All this is happening in the name of preventing the climate from changing. They are peeing on our heads and telling us its raining.

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Everyone tells me that I was born in the wrong century, everyone says I should have been born around 1850 somewhere on the east side of the Rockies. I would do anything to move out west and go off the grid, seems to be easier for other people it seems and not so much for me, I see all these 'bloggers' that start up a patreon page and then it takes off with over 5000 followers. I bet if I tried that all I would get is crickets.


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