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post #21 of 51 (permalink) Old 08-05-2019, 05:58 AM
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I don't think they sell those in the US...
Bad luck, you're missing out on a good option. If the Thai built GM Colorado sold in Australia is the same vehicle sold by that name in the US, you would find the Amaroks are a much better choice. There was that little problem they had with with the EPA testing regime, with the twin turbo 2 litre diesels gimmicked to go into a special clean burn low power mode under the specified testing parameters, but not out on the road. The end result was a more powerful and more driveable truck, that looked like it met all requirements.............

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gimmicked to go into a special clean burn low power mode under the specified testing parameters, but not out on the road. The end result was a more powerful and more driveable truck, that looked like it met all requirements.............

This is what VW got pinched for a few years ago. You know they aren't the only ones...



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This is what VW got pinched for a few years ago. You know they aren't the only ones...
Europe gets lots of diesel options we don't see here. My wife's Jeep is available in Europe with a diesel.

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I'm curious as to why that is. The stigma of the smoke-belchers of the 70's and 80's perhaps?



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I'm curious as to why that is. The stigma of the smoke-belchers of the 70's and 80's perhaps?
I think it's popularity. Americans are not big on diesel engines and manual transmissions.

It's changing little by little (for the diesel engines anyway) as some manufacturers are trying out the diesel options in the US... but I doubt if manual transmissions will make a come-back in the US.

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People joke that manual transmissions are now an anti-theft device because so few young people know how to drive them.

The eco-terrorists in Europe are trying to get the diesel engine cars and light trucks phased out due to pollution standards. Leave it to them to ruin anything good.
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Circling back to my Narrative thread and while big diesel's are great - I'm not interested in diesel at the moment, especially the added cost of the engine and need for DEF. I have driven the fabulous but overpriced Ranger, Meh Colorado and Frontier for less $$ and have decided when I get the cash in hand for my full size Chevy 5.3 - I am buying a 2019 Honda Ridge line RTL-T. Other than the small-ish cargo bed it does everything I need it for. Love the locking storage inside the bed and heated all leather seats with 25 mpg fulltime AWD. :^)
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25 mpg with all wheel drive does sound sweet. That's better than most mid-size light trucks. Not sure about the brandy new ones though. Honda has a good rep. I've had two that were great and relatively trouble free. I think Toyota is slightly better but not across the board so it really depends on the individual and their wants/needs.

One good way to check how good a vehicle will be in 5 years after the big depreciation hit is done is to see what they are selling for; not just what KBB says. Speaking of KBB; NADAguides.com is a better compass on real world values than KBB. I don't remember if this has been mentioned here yet. Take a look at the 2015 models you're looking at and compare new vs now prices.
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The eco-terrorists in Europe are trying to get the diesel engine cars and light trucks phased out due to pollution standards. Leave it to them to ruin anything good.
The inside of the tailpipe on my truck is clean like a new piece of pipe. 23,000 miles and no smoke, no smell, and quiet/smooth running. Today's diesels don't pollute.

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Circling back to my Narrative thread and while big diesel's are great - I'm not interested in diesel at the moment, especially the added cost of the engine and need for DEF.
Sorry for the detour…
Actually, the trend is smaller diesels like the Volkswagen TDI (40 mpg).

DEF is no big deal. I put a couple gallons in every 7,000 miles or so.
People say maintenance is higher cost and fuel costs are higher...

Well, the big gas truck engines and the small turbo stuff require high test gas, so there goes the fuel savings. The diesel gets 24 mpg on the highway and twice the fuel mileage when towing than a gas engine (6.6 mpg vs 14 mpg towing) in 4-1/4 tons of truck! That, and EIGHT HUNDRED FOOT POUNDS...

Yes, the cost of a service is 2 fuel filters and 12 quarts of oil, but the interval is every 15,000 miles, so in reality it's no more costly. Diesels last twice as long (they only turn 3000 rpm). And resale value is way higher, so in the long run, the additional price of admission pays for itself (just in depreciation alone).

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when I get the cash in hand for my full size Chevy 5.3 - I am buying a 2019 Honda Ridge line RTL-T. Other than the small-ish cargo bed it does everything I need it for. Love the locking storage inside the bed and heated all leather seats with 25 mpg fulltime AWD. :^)
Glad you made a decision. I hope you are completely happy with the new Honda.

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(they only turn 3000 rpm)
unless it's owned by today's kids tuning the hell out of them and rolling coal everywhere because it's "cool" >.<



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