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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 02-24-2011, 12:36 PM Thread Starter
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Default !!!!! Need advice from those in the IT field !!!!!

I am currently enrolled in the University of Phoenix for IT Networking. I am starting my classes on Monday February 28, 2011. I just completed orientation.

I started thinking last night if this is the best way to go about getting into the IT field.

Now comes the part I ask for advice.

Would I be better served getting the certifications that UI would pay for and would I be able to get a job with just those certs?

I know the certifications I can acquire quickly where as the AA degree is 18 months.

I have been unemployed for almost a year and it is killing me and I want to get back to work.


The reason I am asking is that the 18 months at UoP is $19,000!! Those are loans I will be paying back once I start class Monday that is when the first loan of 9500.00 starts. If I can get a job in the IT field with just certifications making at least 32k I may be able to get the employer to flip the bill for the education.


Simply put. Will getting my certifications net me a job paying at least 32k in the IT field or should I just start class Monday and work towards my AA eventually getting my BS?

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hey Diamond,

I've been working in the IT field over 12 years now. IMO i would try to get both certs and the AA, it will give you more chance when looking for a job.
check on salary.com for salary range in your field....you can for sure make 32K
What kind of job (title) you are looking for?....do you have any field experience?

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hey Diamond,

I've been working in the IT field over 12 years now. IMO i would try to get both certs and the AA, it will give you more chance when looking for a job.
check on salary.com for salary range in your field....you can for sure make 32K
What kind of job (title) you are looking for?....do you have any field experience?

good luck
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Actually I plan on getting all of the certifications and degree. My thing is I want to get back to work and would love to start in the IT field. I have no experience in this field.

The certifications don't take much time at all where as the AA is an 18 month schedule.

I would ideally like to be able to get the certifications then a job and hopefully the employer will pay for my education to get a degree.
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I'm a old fart and from what I learned most employers don't like paying for school when they know down the road you'll jump ship for a better job.
Now days with so many people out of work I would think there a lot with the degrees you want so they would go to the head of the line.
Check out your school for job hiring after graduation and see what they offer. How much do they pay.
Maybe get a job and do some night school.
The computer skills you have now should get you a job and after a time you'll get more experiences and with that comes more opportunity.
Most employers just want to sit you in your cube and say go to it and walk away. They don't want to baby sit cause they have there own work.
The longer your out of work tells a employer you don't want to work. They don't understand its hard finding a job that one likes.
Wish you the best you know that.
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I have worked in the IT world now for over 20 years and do not have a degree and make in the range of 6 figures. i do have several certs that have helped me along the way. I have also worked my way up, so dont exspect to start high, but with hard work you will move up. think about the A/V world as well, it is still booming in a lot of businesse because it is the way they communicate instead of flying. Video teleconferencing is big and you can make a god living at it!!
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I'm a old fart and from what I learned most employers don't like paying for school when they know down the road you'll jump ship for a better job.
Now days with so many people out of work I would think there a lot with the degrees you want so they would go to the head of the line.
Check out your school for job hiring after graduation and see what they offer. How much do they pay.
Maybe get a job and do some night school.
The computer skills you have now should get you a job and after a time you'll get more experiences and with that comes more opportunity.
Most employers just want to sit you in your cube and say go to it and walk away. They don't want to baby sit cause they have there own work.
The longer your out of work tells a employer you don't want to work. They don't understand its hard finding a job that one likes.
Wish you the best you know that.
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UoP has a really good alumni list in different fields and as my counselor said there are no fraternity's at UoP so the whole alumni is like a fraternity.

I looked into a lot of schools and one of the reasons I picked UoP is the network that they have.

One of the reasons I decided on a career change is the lack of call backs and job offers.

Every frickin thing is apply by computer. I HATE THAT!! I've always been able to nail a job when I get a face to face.

The apply by PC thing is what got me thinking about a career change into IT. Computers ARE the career of the future. Since I already have a extensive security background IT Security was the natural course for me.

The good thing about UoP is I can go to class full time online and still hold down a full time job.

I just want to go the most cost effective and productive route.
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I have worked in the IT world now for over 20 years and do not have a degree and make in the range of 6 figures. i do have several certs that have helped me along the way. I have also worked my way up, so dont exspect to start high, but with hard work you will move up. think about the A/V world as well, it is still booming in a lot of businesse because it is the way they communicate instead of flying. Video teleconferencing is big and you can make a god living at it!!
Nothing like getting in on the ground floor type of job. I don't expect to start high but high enough to justify coming off UI. I have been offered 2 jobs since being laid off in May 2010. UI paid more than they did and they didn't offer insurance.

As I already stated to VJ. I am looking for the most cost effective and productive way to start up.

If the certs. will be good enough to secure employment in the field. That would be great then while working I could work on my degree!
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I am almost 32 and have been working in the IT field for 14 years now. I started in undergrad college as a side job while I was getting my degree for MIS. I started out at entry level, not knowing much. But my hunger for learning IT led me to go for certification after certification. I've worked my way through the ranks over the years and am now a manager of IT Infrastructure for the Americas region in my current company. I obtained my MS in IT from a prestigious Ivy league college in 2008, which really elevated my career. I credit it for my current job. Unfortunately, I'll be paying for that fancy education for 20 years so I need to keep a high paying job now

But you have to start somewhere. 32k is definitely attainable for entry level in the IT field. You might even be able to get that with no experience and a good interview. However, I'd recommend getting a few key certs to get your foot in the door and get you that first job. It depends what you want to do in IT. If you want to to IT support, consider the Windows 7 desktop administrator exam. For more hardcore networking, do the Cisco CCNA (not easy). Remember, certs don't necessarily mean that you know what you are doing, and employers know this. But, they sure do help you get your foot in the door.

As others mentioned, you can't count on an employer to pay for your college. Sometimes they contribute if you've been working for them for years and they see you have a bright future in the company, but you can't always count on this.

So if I were you, I'd try to get a few key certs to help you land that first IT job. Keep going to school because people without a degree will always make less and have fewer opportunities.

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I forgot to update everyone in this thread.

I have decided to attend and get my degree at UoP. I am seeking an intern position with my previous employer in the IT department.

I will be getting my certifications also. I found out that since I was laid off from my job that I can take the cert classes for free and the testing is free. So, I'll take advantage of that upside to loosing my job.

Thank you for your input and advice.
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Diamond, I know your career and personal life are important, but don't you use this as an excuse to take time away from us.

Where is your previous employer? Sacramento or L.A.? Just curious if you were still going to migrate back south.

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