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When talking with riders who ride outside of California (the only state where currently lane splitting is legal), I get this vibe where they think I'm nuts for lane splitting. Same thing happens when talking to folks who do not ride bikes. One of the first questions they have for me is if I lane split, and once I affirm, I can read the disappointment in their eyes. Here's a 15 minute video underlining the benefits of lane splitting.


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When I lived in Cali yes I use to do it. Many benefits to it. Lived in Az the past few decades. If you come here from Cali. please be careful in Az if you deside to do it. #1 it is against the law, you can get a ticket, bummer. #2 the crazy cagers here do not expect it,sooooooooo please be extra careful if you do it here or in the other 49 states. I do not know if I would want to do it with my XRs because the bags are pretty wide. Just in Az please be careful exspecially with it getting hotter out, the roadrage seems to go up with the temps here.

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ill split lanes if traffic is stopped or slow, away from on or off ramps. it does piss me off when bikes speed between cars, for a couple reasons, it pits us against cars by scaring drivers and the drivers try to close the "gap" between lanes, i mean when you are legally lane splitting and cars see you and creep over to your side ill admit they get a blast from my big honkers in their ear, and on my harley my thunder header. and second the more accidents the more legislation, and we all know how fun more laws are. my two cents.
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The biggest thing about Cali is that it's legal so if cagers get pissed you at least have the LEO's looking out for your. CHP does have some advice though



Just don't be a jerk about it Read this guy's discription below his video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2WgLYenN2A

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Every aspect of motorcycling is a compromise in safety. If you feel comfortable lane splitting and it's legal where you're doing it, by all means proceed. For me it's more an issue of wondering whether the other motorists are going to be aware of me if I should try it. In the only state where lane-splitting is legal, I might give it a shot if traffic were heavy and slow moving. San Diego has traffic that doesn't stress me out when it's very busy, altho the LA-adjacent areas I've visited are a little more hectic...not sure if I'd try it there.

I certainly wouldn't try it in my home state or the areas I visit, as drivers are not trained to watch for bikes splitting lanes. In Idaho in would serve to confuse, startle and possibly anger. In the Phoenix metro area, as Speedblue mentioned, it would be quite dangerous, tho Arizona drivers are quite aware of their surroundings despite the fact they tend to drive fast and aggressively. In the Salt Lake City metro area, I don't even feel safe in a car with 8 airbags. I avoid riding there when I can and certainly would not lane split no matter the temptation to do so.

As a motorist who was raised and learned to drive in a place outside of CA, I'm often startled myself when a bike lane-splits near my car, even tho I'm an avid motorcyclist.

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For me in NYC, the traffic and the drivers can get downright stupid, so you pick your battles. Even still, when traffic comes to a dead stop, its 90 degrees out and the 2 into 1 is cooking my leg... thats when I find myself making my move. With everyone nose to @$$ there's no room for anyone to be d*ck and try to squeeze you. Once everyone starts moving again, i'm back into formation. With both of my bikes being fuel injected air cooled v twins.. I find i'm doing it more to keep them from overheating (rather than exploiting an advantage), even if I am only moving in at about 6 or 7 mph. So i guess that makes me more of a filterer than a splitter. The fact that most insurance companies here are just filling a requirement and don't actually fight for you even when you're in the right, kind of sits in the back of my mind if I think about tearing down a white line at 30 and keeps me in check.

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For me in NYC, the traffic and the drivers can get downright stupid, so you pick your battles. Even still, when traffic comes to a dead stop, its 90 degrees out and the 2 into 1 is cooking my leg... thats when I find myself making my move. With everyone nose to @$$ there's no room for anyone to be d*ck and try to squeeze you. Once everyone starts moving again, i'm back into formation. With both of my bikes being fuel injected air cooled v twins.. I find i'm doing it more to keep them from overheating (rather than exploiting an advantage), even if I am only moving in at about 6 or 7 mph. So i guess that makes me more of a filterer than a splitter. The fact that most insurance companies here are just filling a requirement and don't actually fight for you even when you're in the right, kind of sits in the back of my mind if I think about tearing down a white line at 30 and keeps me in check.
It's only legal in California. Why would you come on a PUBLIC forum and profess to doing it? You DO realize that the police could actually pull this thread up anytime in the future to use in a court case, right? 4.3 years from now you cause an accident by lane splitting and you think "it's my word against theirs". You go to court where a lawyer asks you something like "have you EVER lane split" on your bike? POOF! they win the case and your out your lawsuit, $'s or whatever/




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When talking with riders who ride outside of California (the only state where currently lane splitting is legal), I get this vibe where they think I'm nuts for lane splitting. Same thing happens when talking to folks who do not ride bikes. One of the first questions they have for me is if I lane split, and once I affirm, I can read the disappointment in their eyes. Here's a 15 minute video underlining the benefits of lane splitting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNGD9AAIfFU
CR - If it's only legal in Cali, that means it is ILLEGAL in the other FORTY NINE states. Do what you want in Cali. We are fine with it and if I lived there and had to deal with the traffic jams I might even consider it myself. Unfortunately, some riders read threads like this and think "yea, I'll do that too" without realizing that they would be breaking the law. The guys in your video basically use the entire video to "justify" themselves for doing it in other states. Bottom line is, it's illegal so why risk it?

I also found the officer's video a bit off from the formal CA legal definition as well. The state of California states that.. "It is not advisable to lane split when traffic flow is at 30 mph or faster --- danger increases as overall speed increases."
http://www.chp.ca.gov/programs/lanesplitguide.html

Another thing in the video shows a motorcyclist lane-splitting around larger vehicles which is apparently a no-no
When is it NOT OK to split? Maybe this is what adds to the confusion?

You should NOT lane split:
- If you can't fit.
- At a toll booth.
- If traffic is moving too fast or unpredictably.
- If dangerous road conditions exist --- examples include water or grit on the road, slippery road markings, road construction, uneven pavement, metal grates, etc.
- If you cannot clearly see a way out of the space you're going into (for example, if a van or SUV is blocking your view).
- Between trucks, buses, RVs, and other wide vehicles.
- Around or through curves.
- If you are not fully alert and aware of your surroundings.
- If you are unable to react to changing conditions instantaneously.
- If you don't feel comfortable with the situation.




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It's only legal in California. Why would you come on a PUBLIC forum and profess to doing it?
Maybe he doubts that it would be used against him. But at least he didn't film himself filtering like:

This guy in Chicago


Or this guy in New York


This one in Atlanta had cops move out of his way


And this guy in PA went so far as to post the laws he's breaking

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Wink Nobody forces you to split ....

It is just natural for some, and scares others.
Whether legal or not, some will, some won't.

some of the comments here -


Just for the record - I do split, laneshare, drive past stopped traffic etc. Each to their own.

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