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In continuation of my other post, I have tried the 2012 CrossTour this summer at Americade. I wish I would have tried the Vision but I will do so in the spring. I am assuming that the CrossTour and the Vision rides about the same. Please correct me if I am wrong. I only had two observations on the Crosstour (which may also be applicable to the Vision?). Sorry for making constant reference to the Crosstour but that is the only Victory motorcycle that I have ridden.

I have read that the motor is attached to directly to the frame. My current ride (Electra) has a rubber mount so I do not feel the engine as much as the CrossTour. How is the Vision? Is it something one eventually ignores? Any previous Electra owner here that could comment ?

The other question I had was on the transmission. I believe the transmission on the Crosstour and the Vision is the same. I was immediately behind the lead bike during the demo run. Just prior to arriving to the stop sign, both of us were trying to put the bike in 1rst gear and it was doing a racket. I could hear the noise from his bike. I spoke to the lead demo rider after the ride and I asked him if this was happening all the time. He was not sure since he was hired by Victory to do the demo ride. Is there something that both of us were missing ? Would a 09' Vision be this hard to drop in 1rst gear ?

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All Vic's use the engine as a stressed member, and though there is some sympathetic vibration. You don't notice it after a little time in the saddle. The transmission is defiantly not as slick as some of the Jap stuff, but they are very positive, and have little problem finding a gear. You just gotta use your boot

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The Cross Country Tour and the Vision DO share the same backbone. However, the Victory 106 is a LOT smoother than the Harley (at least @ idle) so there is really no need for rubber mounts on the Victories because they aren't the "paint shakers" that the HDs can be.

As far as shifting down, ANY bike can "fight" the synchronization but I haven't seen much of a problem in my bike but then again, I have owned it since new rather than letting any assortment of riders (with their "quirks" trying to FORCE the downshift into 1st. I personally don't see a REAL need to shift below 2nd when coming to a stop. 2nd can & will take you down to about 10MPH. Just use your brakes after that point.




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In continuation of my other post, I have tried the 2012 CrossTour this summer at Americade. I wish I would have tried the Vision but I will do so in the spring. I am assuming that the CrossTour and the Vision rides about the same. Please correct me if I am wrong. I only had two observations on the Crosstour (which may also be applicable to the Vision?). Sorry for making constant reference to the Crosstour but that is the only Victory motorcycle that I have ridden.

I have read that the motor is attached to directly to the frame. My current ride (Electra) has a rubber mount so I do not feel the engine as much as the CrossTour. How is the Vision? Is it something one eventually ignores? Any previous Electra owner here that could comment ?

The other question I had was on the transmission. I believe the transmission on the Crosstour and the Vision is the same. I was immediately behind the lead bike during the demo run. Just prior to arriving to the stop sign, both of us were trying to put the bike in 1rst gear and it was doing a racket. I could hear the noise from his bike. I spoke to the lead demo rider after the ride and I asked him if this was happening all the time. He was not sure since he was hired by Victory to do the demo ride. Is there something that both of us were missing ? Would a 09' Vision be this hard to drop in 1rst gear ?

Looking forward to your responses.
Thanks.
Since I just purchased a 2011 and was riding an older V92 I can there is a differnce but I am +1 with KevinX and Ndabunka. First the petty amount of vibration you will feel in that seat aint nothing to speak of. My TC jingled things around and I thought that was a sewing machin in comparision to my buddies HD's. Vision=Smooth!

Tranny. I did notice a bit of a differnce from the V92 to the 106 tranny. "Use your boot" is correct, a good solid shift and not a single problem for me. The V92 had its clunk but I think the 106 is more solid feeling in each gear. Coming from a heal shifter, it took some getting used to and I did pop it into N coming up short on 2nd a couple times but I was taking easy and recovered with no one knowing.. hehehe

I did find first a couple times was a bit quirky coming up to a stop however I only noticed this when I rolled down RPMs below 2K (a nono) coming up to a light and then tried to grab 2 gears down to first. I would say, and just my opinion, the demo rider just wasnt used to the Vic Tranny.

Nothing to be scared or worried about. After a couple 100 miles, it was nothing noticable at all to me.

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I have read that the motor is attached to directly to the frame. My current ride (Electra) has a rubber mount so I do not feel the engine as much as the CrossTour.
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just like showing this there are 5 short ones

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if you can blow this up enough you can see the motor hangs from the frame giving the bike a better feel
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"I have read that the motor is attached to directly to the frame. My current ride (Electra) has a rubber mount so I do not feel the engine as much as the CrossTour.

Really?"

I was making a reference to driving the bike ... not at rest. I don't feel the engine on my Electra once I am past 1500RPM.
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"Use your boot" is correct, a good solid shift and not a single problem for me.

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So basically, I was too gentle on the shifts ?
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I was making a reference to driving the bike ... not at rest. I don't feel the engine on my Electra once I am past 1500RPM.
Certainly you feel "some" vibrations on the HD while traveling at speed, right?

The Victory vibrations at rest are the same as traveling at speed. Apparently at one point the Victory designers had no vibrations at speed and test riders were saying that "something was needed" so they went back to the drawing board and added "some" vibrations to the engine.




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