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Well, the MBL mod is doing great, 96 brake lights on the trunk. LEDs inside the trunk turn signals look pretty good, may revisit that later.

So was thinking about the brake and turns in the V. My current configuration has all 4 brakelights on regardless of TS after capping the GH wires in the harness the killed the middle lights when the TS was on. Thanks to Radioteachers video. With that said I'm looking at the following options for the V:

Turn signals: a 48 wide angle LED SMT bulb That has 36 side facing to light up more of the whole lens than a spot. Cost is 19.99 each plus a load eq for each side so about 60 all together.

Brakes: center bulbs would be same bulb above OR I could leave the 3157 in for a delay in lighting up and off from the bottom brake LED light. if I stay 3157 my cruise should be fine I think countering the lower brake light LED.

Bottom bulb I was thinking the 48SMT wide or the 60 LED flashing braker. Note says must have zero power when brake off and I'm thinking we're good since the. Cruise kicks off if it sees a load and middle 3157 provides ground for cruise.

Also, I could go the flasher And use a 48 in the middle brake light and just add the load eq, if I go all 4-48 LEDs just add a load eq and an inline 2 sec strobe.

Costs are:
48smt (almost same bulb as used in switchback mod) 19.99ea
60led flasher 29.99
Load eq 6.99
Strobe inline flasher 6.99

Open for inputs. Safe ridin

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Well I sliced it up and made the order last night.. Even kicked in the extra 2 bucks for the 5 day delivery from Autoillumination.com. I was too nervous about the flash bulbs so I just ordered the inline flash and will wire it in upline after getting into the wiring schmatics and seeing if that will cover the trailer harness as well as the middle lights.. Not enough time now. I ordered 2 of the 120 Wide angle SMT's as well as 4 of the 48's and am going to compare to see just how much of a difference there really is for the extra 10 bucks a bulb. Of course got the load EQ's as well. Luckily, I have a TC that I am going to be working on rear lighting soon so what ever I don't use will go to it so I think im in a win win and can provide some good feedback to reduce the cost of this mod SHOULD the 48s not differ much from the 120's. Right now, its 168 for the bulbs and flasher and if the 48s do almost as good then that would bring it down 20 bucks. I was too skiddish to try the 30 LED bulbs but they were only 9.99. I know comparisons were done on the 22wat SMT's in the front lens and the pattern was too direct so more is not always better.

So, hopefully parts in a week and the following weekend mod. Will see. Any inputs still welcome.

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First update and pics will follow after I get some shots at dark. Day light are looking good. Compelte rear "V" mode with SMT LED bulbs did not go off as planned and I got to get into the wiring diagram today and see what could be the culprit.

1st, Turn signals
I installed a 6ohm 25watt load EQ on each of the rear signals in the bulb area. Put a Red 48LED wide angle 12Watt bulb in each side and they fill out the turn signal nicely. They do not appear extemely brighter then the 3157's like you will see in comparison to the 120SMTs however, if your trying to stay on budget you are gaining a very good fill for only 20 bucks a bulb. At this point I am satisfied and weighing out the cost, think I will keep them there.

Brake lights:
Middle Brake light
I had previously incorporated KansasGuardsman's mod that disabled the two relays which keep the two middle bulbs from coming on as brake lights when you have a turn signal on. While this did resolve the problem for a 3157 bulb, it does not for an LED causing the LED to illuminate on the HIGH/Bright side as if the brake was engaged. I reinstalled a 3157 on the right and left the SMT48 installed on the left and the LED on the left worked correctly when the brake was applied. I put both LEDs back in and it reverted to full bright again. Both 3157s and it worked as normal or if you had 1 and 1. Note that the upper element was lit. Getting into the wiring schematics later today/tonight. For now, I left 3157's installed so I can get comparison shots for day and night. I think you will be impressed with the improved appearance.
Lower brake light.
Installed red 120SMT and all I can say is WOW! Absolutely the way to go especialy if your not counting pennies. It brings this light to life. As a test I did NOT install a Load EQ and cruise control still works. This is very important I felt, I tested all modes of the cruise on the way to work and solid.
Will need to see what happens when I revert the middle brake lights to the 48SMT's. With the middle using 3157's I have a nice delay when applying the brake on the middle set of lights with the lower 120SMTs glowing BRIGHT and about a .5 sec delay on the middle bulbs coming on. So its a nice transition that looks a little differnt. Will ensure I get a video of this before swapping out the middle back to the LED's as this would significantly reduce the cost for this upgrade making it under 130 bucks. for turn signals and lower brakes.

Ok, this is it for now. Again, I will be posting pics and video once complete. Thought I might do a quick update as I seem to not do well at posting once im done... lol...

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First update and pics will follow after I get some shots at dark. Day light are looking good. Compelte rear "V" mode with SMT LED bulbs did not go off as planned and I got to get into the wiring diagram today and see what could be the culprit.

1st, Turn signals
I installed a 6ohm 25watt load EQ on each of the rear signals in the bulb area. Put a Red 48LED wide angle 12Watt bulb in each side and they fill out the turn signal nicely. They do not appear extemely brighter then the 3157's like you will see in comparison to the 120SMTs however, if your trying to stay on budget you are gaining a very good fill for only 20 bucks a bulb. At this point I am satisfied and weighing out the cost, think I will keep them there.

Brake lights:
Middle Brake light
I had previously incorporated KansasGuardsman's mod that disabled the two relays which keep the two middle bulbs from coming on as brake lights when you have a turn signal on. While this did resolve the problem for a 3157 bulb, it does not for an LED causing the LED to illuminate on the HIGH/Bright side as if the brake was engaged. I reinstalled a 3157 on the right and left the SMT48 installed on the left and the LED on the left worked correctly when the brake was applied. I put both LEDs back in and it reverted to full bright again. Both 3157s and it worked as normal or if you had 1 and 1. Note that the upper element was lit. Getting into the wiring schematics later today/tonight. For now, I left 3157's installed so I can get comparison shots for day and night. I think you will be impressed with the improved appearance.
Lower brake light.
Installed red 120SMT and all I can say is WOW! Absolutely the way to go especialy if your not counting pennies. It brings this light to life. As a test I did NOT install a Load EQ and cruise control still works. This is very important I felt, I tested all modes of the cruise on the way to work and solid.
Will need to see what happens when I revert the middle brake lights to the 48SMT's. With the middle using 3157's I have a nice delay when applying the brake on the middle set of lights with the lower 120SMTs glowing BRIGHT and about a .5 sec delay on the middle bulbs coming on. So its a nice transition that looks a little differnt. Will ensure I get a video of this before swapping out the middle back to the LED's as this would significantly reduce the cost for this upgrade making it under 130 bucks. for turn signals and lower brakes.

Ok, this is it for now. Again, I will be posting pics and video once complete. Thought I might do a quick update as I seem to not do well at posting once im done... lol...

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First update and pics will follow after I get some shots at dark. Day light are looking good.
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Ok, here are photos and a vid with the following:
Turn Signals are 48Wide angle RED SMTs
Middle Brake are 3157s (stock)
Bottom Brake 120 RED SMTs

Here is a Vid:

1 Stock running
2 Stock Brake
3 LED/3157/120 Braking (mid and lowers are on)
4 Running
5 Turn
6 Last look at brake. 3157 is visible bulb vs the LEDs
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last one, didnt get on last post
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Just seen that the video link did not work.. sorry about that! Will be rerouting the middle light ground wire this week and slaving in the flasher HOPEFULLY if all goes well will wind up with the 2 bottom brakes flashing 3 times and middle solid. Will replace the 2 3157's in the middle with SMT48s and see if the cruise still works with 4 LED's but as I understand it, it shouldnt as with other similar bulbs. Will see what happens, if not, I have a load EQ standing by.

http://youtu.be/jCaJ-g12AZQ

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