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post #1 of 27 (permalink) Old 03-06-2013, 09:47 PM Thread Starter
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Yes I am a brand new rider from Central Illinois. I presently ride a HD FLTRU, called a Road Glide Ultra, and own several other bikes. So where do we go next? I am looking seriously at the possibility of buying a Victory Vision Tour. It is not a major change from what I am already riding, although it does give me a George Jetson styling look for my possible future ride.Tell me what you each can to convince me that I should really make that move. Trivia like conventional bike styling will be meaningless to me. I am not unaware of traditional styling. In fact my FLTRU gives me great traditional styling but it has weaknesses that I simply cannot ignore.

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Default To Vision or not to vision, that is my present dilema

I am not yet a Victory rider, I know that is unusual here. What I presently am is a HD rider with lots of experience with "metric" bikes. I know that sounds weird here but so be it. I own a current FLTRU, a Harley at its best, but I cannot say that I am in love with that particular model. Instead look at it as a model that almost fits my riding style in many ways.
In reality I want to find a bike that I can use regardless of my needs. I am a tour rider by my own profile so that is the minimal requirement. Anything that adds to a touring profile is a good thing. In that category I have found only the Vision series as an alternative of bikes being offered by Victory. I strongly favor the Vision series of bikes.
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When we were looking to go from a Valkyrie Interstate to another bike we test rode several brands of motorcycles. BMW, Harley, Yamaha, Kawa, GL1800, Victory Cross Country, and the Vision. Rode all the bikes one and two up and took them out to curvy roads and Interstate speed to see how they handled.

I wanted a bike that handled well, had plenty of power, easy to do basic maintenance on, and was comfortable to ride. My wife was looking at did we have more room to pack our gear on and was comfortable. Out of all the bikes we rode, we narrowed it down to the two Victories and found a pristine 09 Vision. We've taken a few trips on the Vision and are happy with our choice.

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Oldman, Pop says nobody can make the decision but you and the best way is ride them. Even then, as you are no doubt aware, riding a bike is not the same as living with it.

Here's some of what I went through. I am not a metric guy. I am an American V-twin guy. Indian and Harley. When Victory rolled out the Vision I noticed. How could you not? Nothing else like it. I didn't drop what I was doing and cry out that I had to get me one but I did go to the local powersports dealership and check it out. Until then I had walked past the Victory corner of that dealership without a glance on my way to buy stuff for other Polaris products I owned.

A couple of years later I decided to broaden the stable on account of the Queens bad back. I wanted softer, and plusher out of the box and then I would squeeze more of that out of the choice I made. Rode the Vision. The geek in me couldn't stop playing with the windshield and I could stretch out but the Queen, old skool gal that she is, made it clear that the Vision is too far outside the box for her.

I couldn't get comfortable on a Wing or any metric we fiddled with for that matter and the Beemer is a washboard. I'm done giving the Motor Company any of my cash. They dissed my kind of rider long and hard in their marketing adventures in the 90's and the 21st century. Fine. It's a deal. You don't want me or my money, so be it.

So, back to square one. Well, all of that is history that happened before the Cross Country model. The Queen and I moved to Colorado and I left my machines home in NH except my Indian. Some scumbag decided he wanted it and he won. I found myself in the Rockies without a motorcycle in the garage. That had to get fixed.

Enter the Cross Country Tour, a motorcycle that did not exist when I had flirted with the Vision. Hell, it didn't exist as a model until 2012 but you could cobble one together out of a base Cross Country in 2011 if you kept throwing money at it buying add ons.

I still respect the Vision for what it is and how it rocked the motorcycling community. Love it or hate it, they all know it. To this day many riders hear Victory and all they think of is Vision. Too bad. They are missing a comprehensive lineup of heavyweights.

The Cross Country Tour softens that edgy look that the Vision codified. Some of of us old skoolers can cozy up to it easier than the Vision. It's actually more of a bagger than the Vision, if you measure by storage volume. That electric windshield on the Vision puts it in a separate category but otherwise, there's not a helluva lot of what you get buying a Vision that you won't get buying a Cross Country Tour.

Due to the recent vintage of the Tour there's not much of a used market where there are ample used Visions out there. The Vision has a checkered sales history and that has been reflected in the willingness of Vic and Vic dealers to deal when it comes time to nail down a price. I understand that they are a little less inclined to horsetrade on the Cross bikes due to their relative popularity so there's another thing to consider.

You can see that I'm leading you to consider a Tour while you consider a Vision. Granted, I made my decision. In fairness, the Wing hits it out of the park for passenger plush but the driver needs to be of a physical profile that some of us ain't, the Beemers are too much fun but as a full boat touring machine the compromises are beyond what I accept, the Triumph triple is awesome. Thing is, it and most metrics are bolt on tourers, not purpose built. You could say that about the Cross Country, that is, until you ride one.

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+1 on Dons post, when you do test ride make sure you log a few miles on it and/or a 2nd ride. The first thing I thought after I got on the road with my VV was "What have I done, I should have got the CCT"... Nope, was wrong, just took a few miles to get past the feel of the fixed fairing over fork mounted screen/batwing which I would think is fairly common. I had actually looked hard at the RoadGlide and thought I might go that path... Glad I didnt even thought I may buy one, some day.

The power plant/tranny SHOULD be the main selling point with low cost and ease of maintenance, plenty of info for you to search and read on that. The 2nd airfilter is a must, lower deflectors your call (I like them and the wind envelope they create) as I ride year round and almost ALL of my daily riding is highway to/from work. Im getting 38-44 avg fuel no matter how I ride, doesnt have all the chrome your Glide might BUT the electrics are on the money. I added the CB (will be updating that post soon) for about 1200 and while I could have just used my J&M, I REALLY like the intergration with the sound system. Comparing the saddle bags to my buddies GL1800's, I think its pretty comprable, trunk is got loads of room. I REALLY was displeased with the lighting of the back end of the bike however, with a little handy work and the forums (and about 50 bucks) you can fix that and/or throw on a 4710 controller and you are at GoldWing lighting equivelent.. lol.. Handling is UNBEATABLE IMHO! Electric windscreen absolutely a great option that is stock! I keep it lowered below line of sight as long as no one on back and it is great! I can only wonder how much better can it get by upgrading to a flip. GPS can be wired into audio so you don't have to buy the $850 Garmin but if you want an awsome GPS and plug and play do it. My neighbor has that model on his spyder, GREAT lil GPS.

My take; if you want touring comfort, V-Twin power/performance, feel like your riding on a light cruiser, and NOT own one of the bikes EVERYONE has then the Vision is for you. You will have HOURS of enjoyment talking about your bike every time you fuel up, mount up, walk up, or wake up it seems... lol If you got SPECIFIC questions, please post them. There are plenty of folks around here to answer and not just brag.

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Have you gone to the vision section and read about the bike. Click on forum above and scroll down.
Stop by your local dealer and find out when the demo truck will be there for you to test ride one.

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If you're on a Road Glide, you won't be happy with the instability of the Cross bikes, so don't bother. The Vision is the only frame mounted fairing bike that Vic makes, so that's the logical step.

I have ridden a couple of Visions and can say that nothing I've ever ridden felt as nice or comfortable. If it didn't look like a Winnebago from space, I'd own one right now.

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Bandit and Pop, I fully understand the difference between a frame mount and a "batwing" type fairing. The "batwing", which the cross country emulates, has absolutely no appeal for me. I will choose a frame mount every time, just as I did when I bought a metric with a Vetter IV fairing way back in 1981. I still own that bike today and it is not for sale. It sounds like many of you have had far better experiences with a Vision or another Victory than I have ever had with my "badass" HD FLTRU. That definitely helps me decide. A test ride will only tell me how the bike feels, not what to expect 1000 miles later. That is why I have been asking questions here.
For Pop, I have also looked at a BMW too, I presently own an old one, an R-60 from 1965, but I found both the 1200 and the 1600 were just too tall for me. I am vertically challenged, OK I am a short guy, and I could not reach the ground from either of those bikes when they were on the stand. The Vision allowed me to stand flat footed while on the seat. I just wish the weather was better that day but I do not ride on ice, not ever.
Bandit, the jetson styling does not bother me. I will never see it from the driver's seat.

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Arrow Vision!

Here is my story: I owned an XC for 2 years, took it in for service & the wrench managed to break the fuel nipple on the tank. The dealer apologized up & down, throws me a free shirt off the rack & gives me a loaner Vision for 3 days while my bike is down. I was warned 2 years ago don't ever ride one or you will want one. Like I told the dealer at the time, I don't want to look like George Jetson! Never did like the spaceship styling. Make a long story short, after a couple hundred miles on one, I am sold
Like I told him, coming off an XC, I felt like going from a Chevy to a Cadillac. I gets compliments every time I fuel up. Today, a guy comes up & says "Is that a work of art or a motorcycle?"
"Ride one & you'll own one......own one & you'll answer lot's of questions!"
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