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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old 01-31-2014, 11:28 AM Thread Starter
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from what I read, see, and hear most really brag about the cross country tour. I bought a used 08 vision two years ago, and love it, but I have never road CC. Never hear much talk about the vision. Just wandering what other vision owners think about there bike, compared to the CC. I have owned 16 Harleys in my time, the last three were electra-glides. The new EG`s are nice bikes, but I wouldn't go back after riding the vision. the CC tour is a very nice looking bike, guess I need to go ride one, and see for myself. stable also includes a 08 vegas low premium in cherry, 2013 judge in nuclear orange. Guess you could say victory has won me over after all those Harleys!
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Rocker - I test rode the Cross Country tour and the Vision, couple times each. The vision was a more comfortable bike for me, my wife also thought she was more comfortable on the Vision. I just purchased mine this past summer, and I have no regrets on my decision. I had a 2002 Goldwing which I enjoyed but there was not enough leg room for me. I then purchased a 2006 Electraglide Classic, enjoyed the bike which had more leg room for me. The wife didn't care for the comfort of it. Started having problems with it at 35 k miles. When I purchased the Vision the Harley had 40 k on it. All in all I guess it would depend on comfort for you between CCT or the Vision. But I am very pleased with the Victory brand so far. And very pleased with my purchase of the Vision.


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It would be a lie to say you even remotely went wrong on a Vision. XCT is a fine machine. They share a lot of the same dynamics. Same ground clearance, lean angle, seat height (IIRC), most of the same chassis, front is different. One is frame mounted fairing, the other is fork mounted. Both are very stable, both are about as fine a rider as I've had the privilege of riding.
They have some different ergo's and the pillion is different, as well as luggage capacity. So it really comes down to what you like.
Vision just didn't do it for us. Pillion was cramped on the 12. A nice lady came on to another forum and noted that and was blasted out of the room for such blasphemy. The vision pilots just about all but called her down for a flogging there. She never returned as far as I know. The older versions had more seat room for the pillion and a ruler proved it to me. Momma noted much the same for us. The luggage didn't do it for us either.
The fairing on the XCT is very neutral. I was worried about fighting it but have yet to need to. All conditions have been a solid non dramatic ride. What ever they did, they did it right.
Don't doubt your choice. If you need more storage, check it out. If you need to ride one, do it. Will it make you want to switch? Hard to say.
The Vision is a bit easier to get more ponies and does mod up a bit better because of the better intake. (larger) Otherwise, just ride what floats your fancy.

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We have both in our family. I ride the VV and my wife the XCT. I enjoy both bikes but PREFER my Vision. I rode both bikes back the 1400 miles from where I bought them (PLUG FOR Bairs Inc, Canton Ohio - BILL, YOU ARE AWESOME!) to Colorado. I thoroughly enjoyed both trips.

My Vision is a Ness so I don't have the heated stuff. That was ok cause I really never had it before so I really didn't know what I was missing. The bike was extremely comfortable out of the box.

My wife's XCT was also very comfy. My only gripe for that trip (again, right out of the box) was that I'm tall at almost 6'3". I had no way to stretch out my legs with the XCT's lowers. Highway pegs would be mandatory if this was mine but my wife is quite happy without them at 5'4". What made more than up for it was the heated grips and seat. Again, I only compare this because my Ness Vision doesn't have them where other Visions do.

The Vision rocked when comparing the two on wind protection. The XCT allowed for more "adjustment" of the wind to where you can almost set it up as if you didn't have the fairings. The Vision needs the lower accessory deflectors to allow for complete wind management.

In rain, the Vision wins hands down. The XCT has an anoying characteristic of the rain running along the top of the lowers then just keeping your lower half wet.

The XCT windshield is HUGE from the factory. I hate looking through it all the time. The Vision and it's adjustablility is priceless in my book.

Believe this or not....the Vision SUCKS on baggage space. The XCT will blow your mind. Without knowing the numbers off the top of my head, the two saddle bags of the XCT hold more than all the bags on the Vision combined. The XCT bags are very functional when loading to max (or beyond). The Vision, not so much.

What I mean by that is if you have liner bags for both, you can stuff the XCT bag before putting it in the bike. Go to the bike and that bag will go into the bike with no problem. The Vision's saddle bag is bigger inside than the opening (which still isn't very good). If you stuff your liner bag before getting it to the bike you'll have a helluva time getting it into the bike. Not to mention removing them. Just pull on the XCT bag and you are off to the room. No so on the Vision. If you filled the bag AFTER you put it into the bike, you ain't pulling the bag out of the bike.

The VV has integrated brakes, not so on the XCT
The VV has hydraulic clutch, not so on the XCT (but you can add it - which I did)
The radio on the basic XCT rocks!! Beats the pants off of the Vision - even the Ness with the Kickers all around. This is so comparably different I swore there was something wrong with my Ness's until I compared my bike with another Vision. Nope, they just plain suck in sound quality compared to the XCT.

I much prefer the radio/electronic display and button setup on the Vision. All controls for the XCT are on the handle bar where the Vision has way more options and such on the center dash.

Same tires and rims (again, except for the Ness rims). Same maintenance expenses and parts (makes it nice for me).

VERY close on the MPG. The Vision has a 6/1 (total/reserve) fuel tank and the XCT has a 5.8/1.2 gal fuel tank. I expect the Vision would have better MPG than the XCT because when we travel together, my bike is loaded more to include the trailer and we need gas just about the same time.

Both bike can get a hitch and pull a trailer. The XCT hitches are cheaper.

The XCT trunk comes off waaaay easier as it's designed for the Lock-n-ride stuff. Very nice when it comes to options. The Vision's does come off but with more effort and time. Not nearly as quick to change on a whim.

Both bikes feel very much the same to the butt. Both are just as difficult to pick up if layed down on their tip over points.

I think I've exhausted my comparative thoughts. Each to their own. If it was just me and I had to have just one, I'd choose the Vision. It's more my style and I was in awe over it's wind and rain protection. I fit into the Vision while I fit on the XCT.

All just my humble opinions.

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If you are not sure of the model, the best thing you can do is ride one. If you sometimes ride 2-up, also try a test ride 2-up. Until you do that all of us can say anything but you still won't have a clue how it will suit you.

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Do not buy one with out a radio. Cause its $2000 dollars if you change your mind

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Now that's good advise. I know 2 guys with a XR. Both hate not having a radio. After every ride they're looking into trading up.

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Now that's good advise. I know 2 guys with a XR. Both hate not having a radio. After every ride they're looking into trading up.
I own an XR and I think that's a terribly inefficient idea:

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Besides the fact the XM radio pumps into my ear in hi fi AND the ear buds block wind noise, my choice of music bothers no one. It is immeasurably better than carrying a ton of weight on the handlebars to blast music that gets washed out in wind noise, and would be even better if I had a newer GPS that pumped the music Bluetooth vs wire line.

My thoughts on the two bikes in question.

1. I think Visions with certain paint jobs look killer. And with the top box removed, it might have the best looking posterior in motorcycledom.

2. I think XCT luggage capacity is unbeatable.

3. My wife thinks the Vision is the most comfortable of the Vics.

4. I find the XCT and the Vision to be pressure cookers on hot days.

5. I find Vision rearview mirrors nearly useless.

6. I love the adjustable windscreen on the Vision.

7. I think the XCT bikes would be easier to work on than the Visions, but both have way too much crap on them.

Sorry, when all is said and done, XRs rule!




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I have ridden a Vision for 50K miles the past 2 years (I am not Rollin) and the comfort is great. My wife rides and XR and she is absolutely in love with it too. We travel almost every weekend in search of new roads and make 2 -3 long trips a year. I removed the trunk on the VV within a few months of owning it and get by just fine on trips.

The CR is a bit cramped for me because the low heated seat moves your forward about 1" making the saddle a bit tight between to front and back which "locks" you into the seat. I feel like I am riding on the tank sometimes. The Vision has a lot larger seat from front to back which makes it easy to move around a bit on a long stretch allowing me to ride longer distances at a time.

Storage space is always a topic that comes up a lot. We have learned that it is how you pack and what you wear when you ride makes a huge difference. We typically can go for 10 days without stopping at a laundry mat. Tightly rolling your clothes gives you more space in the luggage.

A good set of riding pants can save a lot of space when you travel and give you the benefit of protection. You don't wear street clothes under them.

In short, ride what you love and adapt to the storage provided.

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from what I read, see, and hear most really brag about the cross country tour. I bought a used 08 vision two years ago, and love it, but I have never road CC. Never hear much talk about the vision. Just wandering what other vision owners think about there bike, compared to the CC. I have owned 16 Harleys in my time, the last three were electra-glides. The new EG`s are nice bikes, but I wouldn't go back after riding the vision. the CC tour is a very nice looking bike, guess I need to go ride one, and see for myself. stable also includes a 08 vegas low premium in cherry, 2013 judge in nuclear orange. Guess you could say victory has won me over after all those Harleys!
I rode both several times, although some here say they handle the same I found that not to be the case for me, seating, reach to handlebars, and leg room was better for me on the Vision, also it seemed to handle better in the curves. I bought A 2011 Vision tour, I added the lowers and that has helped A bunch with heat management. I guess the best way is just ride both and then choose what suits you the best, for me it is the vision.

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