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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old 02-27-2014, 08:42 PM Thread Starter
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All I can say is WOW!! There are enough videos of them out there now so I won't post more...maybe I will....but WOW!!

They are very bright so you'll never hear anyone tell you they can't see your tail lights.

I opted to install the boards myself. Front and rear. I got better as I went so I thought I would pass on my experience and maybe a tip or two. I got MBW's $60 flasher module too. Very well made and worth the money. Plug and play with no concern about wire tapping or installing resistors etc.

TEST THE BOARDS ON THE BIKE BEFORE INSTALLING THEM INTO YOUR HOUSINGS....EVEN BEFORE YOU TAKE YOUR HOUSINGS APART.

You must separate your lenses from light housings. This is not for the faint of heart but it's not that hard. The lenses are held in place by gray silicon type of goop. The LED instructions mention the option of heating the housings in a 200 degree oven for 10 minutes to soften the goop. At least double this. 200 degrees isn't that hot and you can hold the housings by hand when you take them out.

If you heat them up for 20 minutes or more, the lenses will literally come right off. One run of a utility knife around the lenses, and a small screwdriver pry where the housings hold the lenses at tabs, and pull apart. I kid you not.

Once you get the lenses off, the lenses will be warm enough that the adhesive will literally peel right off of them. I recommend removing every bit of the gray adhesive from everywhere. This will ensure a good seal when you reapply the silicon and snap the lenses back on the housings.

The housings are not that simple as almost all the adhesive will remain on them. I recommend removing every bit of the gray adhesive from everywhere. This will ensure a good seal when you reapply the silicon and snap the lenses back on the housings. I used a small screwdriver to scrape out the goop channel after cutting away all I could with the utility blade.

If you indeed get the gray goop out, when it's time to reattach the lenses, fill the channel with the silicon that comes with the LED's, then press back on the lenses. The lenses will snap in place and there will be no need to rubber band, or squeeze them to hold them in place for hours and hours. Where the lens and housings meet, run your finger around the seam to smooth out any silicon that squeezed out. Good to go.

What I did then was a little above and beyond. I put the newly stuck lights in the oven at 100 degrees for about an hour. It will speed up the curing process so the bike can be put back together with no concern of wet silicon getting where you don't want it.

They truly are amazing and is that one little touch that finishes off the Vision look. The LED's look as though they were part of the design from the beginning.

A strange thing to vividly remember when it was all done. On my work bench were the light bulbs I removed and replaced with the LED's. 10 of those bad boys! 10! Strange I know.

My Ness Vision is orange so to me, the RED lenses are best. I think everyone that does this should think hard about going the clear or staying red. The clear up front with the DRL line of LED's being white would be quite spectacular. The yellow looks quite good on my bike, wishing I could pull off the white though.

I know we like pictures. Sorry I didn't take any. Videos though. They are programmed for now what I like but may change them. Lots of options that's for sure.




A night compare using a friend's stock Vision. (maybe tomorrow I'll do a day compare).



Remember I mentioned above about testing the boards before you do anything to your lights? There's a reason I mentions that. One of my boards had a mind of it's own. This brings me to something that's very important to me.

CUSTOMER SERVICE!

MBW has proved to me their worth. If we are honest with the world, we know that mechanics/electoronics are not always perfect and humans make mistakes. Jennifer at MBW did loads of research via phone calls and videos trying to find out what was wrong with one of my lights. We trouble shot everything we both could come up with. In the end, because my housing was already assembled with the board, MBW sent me NEXT DAY AIR an entire assembly. I wasn't going to have to take mine apart again to put in another board. It was a plug and play unit. This decision was made over a few hours of me emailing her about my apparent problem so it was rather quick.

She was extremely pleasant to work with. She truly showed me that they care about this product and wanted me fixed ASAP! It would be too good to be true if every LED board they produced, including this first batch produced and sold, was perfect. Things happen. It's ok.

So in the end, 24 hours after I started taking my bike apart, I installed my LED's, had a problem, and had a replacement in my hands. I'm going riding tomorrow! Come on spring!

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Thanks for the great post/update. Mine should be shipped this week.

Sounds like these were a good choice!! I like the plug and play feature the most.

I am only doing the rear for now ($$) but hope to give in soon and order the fronts.

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yea, the rears are a must. The fronts are just nice!

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Thanks for the great post/update. Mine should be shipped this week.

Sounds like these were a good choice!! I like the plug and play feature the most.

I am only doing the rear for now ($$) but hope to give in soon and order the fronts.
Did you get them? Installed yet? I hope you got their flasher unit too.

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Just received my package the other day. Hope to work on it either this weekend or next week. Getting excited! I will holler if I have problems! Thanks!

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Oh yea...I did get the flasher. Looks quality.

Mike, one quick question... you said the red lens had tabs to hold it onto the base. Was that a concern when taking it off? Can you see them and know where to pry to avoid breaking them off?

Thanks!!

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They are easy to see and if you are aware of them when you pry the two apart you'll be fine. I didn't pry at the tabs but next to then. Just be gentle.

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Awesome! Thanks Mike!

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I went riding yesterday with a buddy. I didn't tell him I installed the lights but he definitely noticed them!!

"did you change you lights?"
"yep. You noticed them eh? Are they bright?"
"Hell yes! Those things are brighter than Hell man!!"

Perfect. Just the outcome I was hoping to get. Especially on a bright sunny day.

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Well, slowpoke me finally got to it and WOW!!

The instructions 'TheMike' wrote up is spot on and should be used by MBW. Much better than what was sent along.

Oven: 200^ for 20 minutes like Mike said. Don't waste your time trying to do it in 15 minutes. 20 mins. and boom, so much easier! Don't ask me how I know this .... does not pay to be inpatient...

Get the Flasher from MBW. I know....$60 bucks but true quality and simple plug n play.

I did not put mine in the oven to dry (chicken) but laid in the direct sunlight for several hours.

One thing instructions not real clear on. You actually have to program each side LED light separately. Program left side blinker and left side brake light then move onto the right side. Took a little work to figure out and get the blinkers at the same speed. I went with bottom to top sequence with the slowest speed. And the triple flash brake light.

All in all.... Love Them!!! Can't wait to have a friend ride my bike so I can see my new taillights!!!!

p.s. Just installed my Lloyds Advance Timing Wheel. Gonna be a fun ride!!!

Thanks Mike for all the assistance!!

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