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I am looking at buying either a new Vision or maybe a cheaper 2010 Vision and then having Lloyds work their magic. I am thinking pipes, cams, adjustable timing, upper air filter, and some tuning. I can go on and find the prices of the parts, but I am not sure about labor costs to have them installed. If there are any other suggested items to add to my list, please let me know. And for those that have had similar set ups done, can you give me a rough estimate of what it cost in total with labor.

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As I replied in another post, why not new old stock? (new left overs from previous model years) That way you'll still get the full warranty, and save $$$.

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If we new where you lived we could tell you where to go. There is Lloydz, The Vic Shop or KMC and Kevinx all are top of line tuners and with parts and labor I think your looking at 2 grand if you all ready have pipes

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I will update my profile when I get home this evening. I am in Virginia about 30 miles west of DC. I think Lloyds is the closest to me at just over 5 hours away and a decent ride.
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As I replied in another post, why not new old stock? (new left overs from previous model years) That way you'll still get the full warranty, and save $$$.
So who installed the items in your sig line? If you did not install, do you have a rough idea what it all cost you for the performance items?
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If we new where you lived we could tell you where to go. There is Lloydz, The Vic Shop or KMC and Kevinx all are top of line tuners and with parts and labor I think your looking at 2 grand if you all ready have pipes
Pipes look like they are just under $1000. So you think that for around $3K I could get the 110-115HP bike I want including parts and labor? That is the round about number I came up with, but I also thought that was to low.
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Let me ask you, since nobody else has, why you want pipes. Pipes are changed to make noise, not to make power. The Vision stock exhaust is good for most mods without any change. It just flows really well. With the intake and cams you will want a fuel controller too. Lately I have seen lots of good things said about the Dobeck gen 4 fueler but I have no experience with it myself.
The timing wheel was a no brainer for me. I bought one and installed it on my Vision in about 30 minutes. Now the bike runs smoother and I did not need to make it a part of any upgrade package.
As far as new vs used, it is your call. You avoid the first year depreciation by buying any used vehicle but you never know what the previous owner did with that vehicle. I tend to favor new but have had plenty of used vehicles over the years. I do like the idea of buying a left over, but still new, '13 or '12 for a good price with the warranty intact.

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As you are aware, the CAMs are $530 for either choice. Most installer's charge around $500 to install the CAMs by themselves (no tune) at the CAM parties. Your best bet would be a Dyno and the CAMs and that typically runs around $1,300 from ay of the guys doing the work at one of the rally's where they pull their dyno trailer too (like Myrtle in the fall) but these are just estimates. Some charge less, some charge more. If you want to put on the air systems and timing wheel, the prices will go up from there.

As others have pointed out, you can actually get MORE performance out of leaving the stock pipes in place but if you don't mind sacrificing some power for a bit more rumble, there are lot's of options and those run from a $25 do it yourself effort up to $1,300 Freedom Performance straight pipes.

I had a quite for all the Lloyds parts & The Power Commander 5 (tuner) and a dyno all for $2,350 from Kyle @ KMC a few years back but that was for an X-bike and may have even been before the timing gear was available so this is ballpark only but you should be able to come close for $3K. Better yet, there are a number of bikes available for sale that ALREADY have the CAM work done to them for reasonable $'s. I think I recently saw a 2013 Vision with CAMs for something insane like $14K. Sure, you can probably buy a 2009 Vision for $8K and then drop $3K in and have the same thing so I guess it's up to you




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Let me ask you, since nobody else has, why you want pipes. Pipes are changed to make noise, not to make power. The Vision stock exhaust is good for most mods without any change. It just flows really well. With the intake and cams you will want a fuel controller too. Lately I have seen lots of good things said about the Dobeck gen 4 fueler but I have no experience with it myself.
The timing wheel was a no brainer for me. I bought one and installed it on my Vision in about 30 minutes. Now the bike runs smoother and I did not need to make it a part of any upgrade package.
As far as new vs used, it is your call. You avoid the first year depreciation by buying any used vehicle but you never know what the previous owner did with that vehicle. I tend to favor new but have had plenty of used vehicles over the years. I do like the idea of buying a left over, but still new, '13 or '12 for a good price with the warranty intact.
I figured the pipes had to be done to get the best performing bike with all the other mods. I don't need more noise so that may save me some cash.
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I figured the pipes had to be done to get the best performing bike with all the other mods. I don't need more noise so that may save me some cash.
Lloydz or Kyle from KMC will be your top selections where your at. Call either and get a quote. They will break it out for you very well. Honkers and other pipes sound great but if you want the performance look for some used or dyi mod for the pipes. Visions pretty cut and dry:
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