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Got a 05 Hammer 3000 miles. Is it to soon to go to a full syn. oil? told to wait till at least 5000. Any thoughts?
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Got a 05 Hammer 3000 miles. Is it to soon to go to a full syn. oil? told to wait till at least 5000. Any thoughts?

i went after my first maintence check. 48,000 miles later , no problems.
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Got a 05 Hammer 3000 miles. Is it to soon to go to a full syn. oil? told to wait till at least 5000. Any thoughts?

Thoughts are... Change to Synthetic at your First Service... I did mine at 660 miles..

There really is no 'break-in' period any more, those days are years gone by. The initial drain is to get machining and casting debris from the engine.


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not true, there is a break in period, read your owners manual, i just bought an 09 vegas and the first 500 miles are critical, the oil & filter is changed at the 500 mile service, ive ranfull synthetic in all my vehicles, specially motorcycles, with exceptional results, go to the aimsoil web site they did some very interesting comparisons on oil you can see how victory oil stacks up against the other leading oils and decide for yourself.

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not true, there is a break in period, read your owners manual, i just bought an 09 vegas and the first 500 miles are critical, the oil & filter is changed at the 500 mile service, ive ranfull synthetic in all my vehicles, specially motorcycles, with exceptional results, go to the aimsoil web site they did some very interesting comparisons on oil you can see how victory oil stacks up against the other leading oils and decide for yourself.

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Steve... The initial service (500 miles) is to get machining and casting debris from the engine..

You could put a Synthetic in before it even leaves the dealer, but it is a waste of money as you are going to dump it as well to get the debris out.

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Be careful going full synthetic.

Remember that our engines and tranny share the same oil. There are a lot of people that use Amsoil and Mobil 1 etc with no problems but there are just as many others that have clutch slippage with those oils.
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Be careful going full synthetic.

Remember that our engines and tranny share the same oil. There are a lot of people that use Amsoil and Mobil 1 etc with no problems but there are just as many others that have clutch slippage with those oils.
The problems arise when the wrong oil is put in or has been used previously which may cause clutch slippage or chatter. We have noticed the problem in Vics especially when Mobil 1 Automotive is used previously.

For some reason, many people feel that they can use any oil and don't know what Specs to look for.

The Specs you should look for IF for some Strange Reason you wish to run an auto/diesel oil are API SG/SH ... A Higher API may be used IF... read again.. IF it has a JASO MA Rating...

An API of SJ, SL or SM DO NOT Automatically Supercede SG/SH.

Auto oils with an SH alone or a Diesel oil with a CH or higher should be avoided if they do not have a JASO MA or MA 2 Rating.

ALL AMSOIL Motorcycle oils have a JASO MA 2 Rating which is the highest clutch performance rating available today.

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Hi Bob , the owners manual directs the owner of a new victory .... and i quote,

during the first 500 critical engine parts require special wear-in procedures so they seat and mate properly,

0 to 90 miles do not operate the motorcycle extended periods of time at throttle positions above 1/3 throttle

90 to 300 miles do not operate for extended periods of time above 1/2 throttle

300 to 500 miles do not operate for extended periods of time above 3/4 throttle

im not argueing synthetic v/s simi-synthetic or dino oil , I personally have used syn in all my cars and bikes, and i do use aimsoil no complaints only way to go.

and you do have a valid point re any residue re casting cuttings, however the instructions from victory allows the rings to mate and trans gears ect to " work in " mate.

best regards, steve
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I just bought a Vegas Jackpot with 2600 miles on it. I couldn't find out what oil had been run in it. Is it true that IF it had been previously serviced with full synthetic, I could harm it by using semi-synthetic now?

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