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Default Rotella T same as T4?

Was doing some reading here over the weekend and am going to try the oil mixing route on my upcoming change. The posts I read all say mix T6 and Rotella T, which I cannot find here. Is Rotella T4 the same thing with a different name? Sorry if this has already been asked. I did search first... but I'm old and stupid.

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First thing I would look for is if it's JASO-MA and/or JASO-MA2 certified. According to the spec sheet for Rotella T4 15w40, it isn't.

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OEM SPECIFICATIONS AND APPROVALS
SAE 15W-40 API and OEM Approvals
API CK-4, CJ-4, CI-4 PLUS, CI-4, CH-4, Cummins CES 20086,
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http://rotella.shell.com/products/ro.../t5-15w-40.pdf
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Hmm, odd. It said it on the back of the bottle I looked at yesterday which is why I wanted to post the question first to make sure.

Shell Rotella T4 Triple Protection SAE 15W-40 API CK-4

Edit... Ahh, your link took me to T5, Was asking about T4. I see the phrase "Enhanced wear protection" on the T4 sheet. Somewhere in this oil section I seem to remember that phrase being a no-no. I confess though, I'm not sure. I read hundreds of posts and all the info is still jostling for position in my nugget.

http://rotella.shell.com/products/ro...n-brochure.pdf

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Well, there ya have it. Either I missed it, or the specs have changed. Either way, if it has the certification, give it a try if you like.
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Here's an interesting site. It seems a bit lacking but here's what it listed for JASO MA oils.

https://www.oilspecifications.org/oiltool/oiltool.php

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Another good link with lots of info. It's important to know the JASO ratings are from Japan. The MA and MA2 are for use with a wet clutch. I'm not seeing anything in the other ratings for wet clutch use but that doesn't mean they aren't; just that it isn't addressed.

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So is there a consensus? Is T and T4 the same and is that what everyone is using to mix with T6 these days? Thanks

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QUESTION.....Why mix? Why not use T-6 by itself? Many here do that, including this guy.
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So is there a consensus? Is T and T4 the same and is that what everyone is using to mix with T6 these days? Thanks
I did that for a long time.

A very good oil is Lucas full synth or semi-synth. Both are JASO MA2 rated. One of our high mileage riders has been running the Lucas full synth 20w50 for a long time now. I'll let him chime in if he wants to.

I think if I lived in a cold weather location I would lean toward the 10w40 and if I lived in the south where it gets over 100 degrees daily then the 20w50 would likely be the better choice but both will work in either location. For daily short distance rides; I'd use the lighter weight oil.






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Well honestly, I never thought about doing it until I was reading all the posts about it on here. I've been using amsoil forever and it seems like (I have no proof and have never done an oil test) it wears out fast, or whatever word you would use to describe it. The motor gets noisy, shifting gets noticeably clunky or loud. 3 to 4k. I change and it quiets down and shifts better. Now I always have changed oil anyway at 5k so really I don't plan on gaining anything in that dept but since an oil change was due I thought I would read up and see about a change. I never even thought about using T6 (I've been using it for years in my diesel trucks) until I read up on it here. If T6 5w-40 is good and wont cause me an issue in the FL heat then I'm good with it. Thanks man.

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QUESTION.....Why mix? Why not use T-6 by itself? Many here do that, including this guy.

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