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post #1 of 59 (permalink) Old 11-03-2010, 10:10 AM Thread Starter
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Not to wear out a repeated subject...

I'm happy to announce that I'm a new owner of a Victory 2011 Cross Country.

I recently had my 500mi oil change and check up (courtesy of the dealer where I purchased my new toy). My question is what oil should I use next time it's due? Now the oil change kit in my area isn't that costly (Around $60-70).

I used to own Harleys prior. And the oil I used was Amsoil 20/50 which worked well. When I asked the Victory dealer about using the synthetic, they recommended not using due to the clutch slippage/possible damage? Funny thing is when I asked the Harley dealer years ago (prior to the Screaming Eagle full synthetic). They recommended against it also. Stating it "was too slippery"?? I went and used the synthetic anyways with no problems for the past 10 or so years. Now it's ok to use it since they sell a full synthetic oil

I'm just looking for some feedback on the Freedom 106ci motors and the use of synthetic oils. Will I have problems? I'm sure the Polaris Victory oil will work fine and cost is comparable if not less than the synthetics. I'm just looking at all the options I have with my new toy.


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Full Synthetic is not recommended as has been recommended in other countless threads here.

These are not HD's. The Victory has a wet clutch, engine and tranny share the same oil.

Semi synthetic.
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You being an old harley rider you know you shouldn't switch oil till you have 5000 miles on the motor. I have a 08 vision and at 6000 miles went to amsoil 20/50 cause I couldn't find mobil 1 I have over 10,000 on the bike and no problems. All the clutch company's switch there fibers on there plates years ago. The motor is now quiet and it shift great. If I didn't tell you there was amsoil in it you would never know. Matter of fact I just came back from a ride and its 52 out side. I had to wait till the motor was warm before leaving but you know to touch the cylinder to feel if its warm.
So I would wait till you had more miles on before going to a syn oil.
Good Luck and I don't think any one here use the same oil as the next guy.
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Full Synthetic is not recommended as has been recommended in other countless threads here.

These are not HD's. The Victory has a wet clutch, engine and tranny share the same oil.

Semi synthetic.
I used full synthetic on my 98 Buell S3T
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I guess one of us is confused. I thought we were talking about a VICTORY motorcycle not a Buell.
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I am sorry to say but most if not all motorcycles are running the same clutches as the next one. Maybe they have more fiber plates or less fiber pates in them but there all the same. Check barnett or alto these guys make 80 to 90 percent of all plates for motorcycles and they all say syn oil is fine.
They do say you can not switch back an forth cause your fibers will fail. For the most part you can change from normal oil to syn but in some cases syn will not work cause of the condition's of your fiber plates.
Yes the other American motorcycle has been using syn since 2000 in there clutch's and motors and have no problem. But then there is the guy that does burn outs and heats his clutch up cause he doesn't know how to ride.
Keep in mind that motorcycle oil has a different shear factor then car oil so don't use car oil unless you need it in a emergency.
So if your scared stay with what you feel best with. I have never of a victory going bad cause of the oil more cause of the owner. Yes all bikes I know of have wet clutches except for open primary belt bikes.

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To answer your question the official and probably most correct answer is to use the Victory oil change kit. You will be changing oil every 5k miles after the 500 mile change so it isn't that expensive when changing that often.

There is a plan "B" though that many people use.

Rotella semi synthetic T5 (SILVER JUG) oil
($16/gallon @ Wal Mart, $35 for 3 gal. at Sams Club) WalMart SuperTech ST7317 oil filter for $2.88. Made by Champion

I'm not advocating this alternative. Just stating that many people use it with no issues. Rotella is a quality oil though. I wish I could get it in 20-50wt syn or semi-syn for my HD.
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I am sorry to say but most if not all motorcycles are running the same clutches as the next one. Maybe they have more fiber plates or less fiber pates in them but there all the same. Check barnett or alto these guys make 80 to 90 percent of all plates for motorcycles and they all say syn oil is fine.
They do say you can not switch back an forth cause your fibers will fail. For the most part you can change from normal oil to syn but in some cases syn will not work cause of the condition's of your fiber plates.
Yes the other American motorcycle has been using syn since 2000 in there clutch's and motors and have no problem. But then there is the guy that does burn outs and heats his clutch up cause he doesn't know how to ride.
Keep in mind that motorcycle oil has a different shear factor then car oil so don't use car oil unless you need it in a emergency.
So if your scared stay with what you feel best with. I have never of a victory going bad cause of the oil more cause of the owner. Yes all bikes I know of have wet clutches except for open primary belt bikes.
They may be running the same clutches but not the same engines. The oil is a vital source of engine cooling. The Victory oil is SPECIFICALLY made for the cooling of our bikes.

I didn't say that the engines DID have problems because of oil. I said I wouldn't be surprised.

I've done a few engines having worked at a dealership and having my own Victory customizing business.

I have seen damage from what appeared to be excessive heat. None of those bikes were running Vic oil.

I know a rider that had a complete upgrade and rebuild of a SC and refused to use the Vic oil and stuck with another brand. The engine had significant scarring and heat damage and had to be rebuilt again. Same damage as previously. While this isn't common and this rider doesn't race etc. It still has been a problem.
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I guess one of us is confused. I thought we were talking about a VICTORY motorcycle not a Buell.
The discussion is about a Victory(2011 CC). Just thought I'd throw in the Buell which I also used Synthetic oil on which shares crankcase/clutch compartment.

Just trying to gather some information on my new ride.

Thanks for the feedback

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