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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old 05-06-2014, 10:18 AM Thread Starter
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I'm actually an Indian owner (2014 Vintage), but I poked my head in here to ask a pretty simple question:

I'm wondering if the oil change procedure on Victorys is similar to what we have on the new Indians?

On the 2014 Indians adding the oil back into the engine is a two step process.

Basically after draining the oil, replacing the filter, and buttoning up the engine again the add oil process is:
1. with the bike on the side stand, add 4.5 quarts of oil.
2. set the bike straight upright (off the side stand), start the bike up and let it run for several minutes, revving up to about 2500 rpm.
3. leave the bike upright and add the final 1 quart of oil.

It's an easy process, but because it's different than what you do with a HD, some dealers aren't adding the oil correctly.

Is the process of adding oil into your Victory bike the same or similar to what I described above?

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I'm actually an Indian owner (2014 Vintage), but I poked my head in here to ask a pretty simple question:

I'm wondering if the oil change procedure on Victorys is similar to what we have on the new Indians?

On the 2014 Indians adding the oil back into the engine is a two step process.

Basically after draining the oil, replacing the filter, and buttoning up the engine again the add oil process is:
1. with the bike on the side stand, add 4.5 quarts of oil.
2. set the bike straight upright (off the side stand), start the bike up and let it run for several minutes, revving up to about 2500 rpm.
3. leave the bike upright and add the final 1 quart of oil.

It's an easy process, but because it's different than what you do with a HD, some dealers aren't adding the oil correctly.

Is the process of adding oil into your Victory bike the same or similar to what I described above?

TIA
Not the same on Victory. We're supposed to add our oil on the side stand. Your procedure sounds like it's trying to avoid trapping air and giving a false higher reading of oil level. That being said, there were a few fellas here who managed to get too much oil in their motors, so adapting the Indian procedure might help us Victory riders. Thank you for sharing.

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Thanks for the reply.

I think a lot of the new Indian dealers are hiring old HD mechanics... who are stuck in their ways and think they know it all, and refuse to follow the correct procedure.

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Thanks for the reply.

I think a lot of the new Indian dealers are hiring old HD mechanics... who are stuck in their ways and think they know it all, and refuse to follow the correct procedure.

Again, thanks!
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There are a handful of Victory mechanics across the country that have earned our trust. Most of the rest are average and then there are some butchers dressed up as eye surgeons.

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I agree completely.

I was recently on a long ride from Colorado down into Florida and up the eastern seaboard.. I hit the 10K mark on my bike and so stopped at a dealer to get the service done.

When I got home I found that either not enough oil was put in at the dealer, or my new engine is suddenly burning oil at a rate of 1 quart in 1500 miles..
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someone told me you use 5 1/2 quarts in the Indian and you have two drain plugs.

Is there magnet on the end of the drain plug?

I'm guessing you can go 5 thousand miles between changes.

Wounder why Vic/Indian can't figure out a way to check oil on side stand.

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someone told me you use 5 1/2 quarts in the Indian and you have two drain plugs.

Is there magnet on the end of the drain plug?

I'm guessing you can go 5 thousand miles between changes.

Wounder why Vic/Indian can't figure out a way to check oil on side stand.
Yeah the 2 drain plugs is kind of weird. The plugs have magnets at the end - I would image we use the same drain plug you guys do.

Anyway we go 5000 miles between changes. It's an awesome running bike - the best bike I've ever owned...

The dealer that did the change is saying that they aren't at fault (of course...) and that my bike must be burning oil... but I've not seen any sign of that. Anyway I drove up to my nearest Indian dealer and picked up an oil change kit and am about to do the change. I'll be measuring the amount of oil I get out of it and will be keeping a close watch on the oil level for the next few thousand miles at least.

About checking the oil on the side stand... you guys deal with that too? Kind of a PIA, but it is what it is I suppose.

Anyway thanks for all the responses.
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The Ingins are a semi-dry sump. Does that mean its a moist sump? That changes the way you refill it.

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Wounder why Vic/Indian can't figure out a way to check oil on side stand.

Probably because the angle of the bike on the sidestand changes with variables. (how much air in the rear shock, how much weight in the saddle bags or truck ect.) Where as check oil with the bike vertical, it is idiot proof.

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