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I recently stopped by my nearest Victory dealer to get a price quote on my upcoming 5K mile service. I was asked if I wanted to upgrade to Amsoil at this service since that was when most customers were making the switch. My initial thought was pleasant surprise since I'm an Amsoil fan but didn't want to cause potential warranty issues or excuses down the road.
But then my confusion set in when I was told that they would be putting in the 20w-50 Amsoil in instead of what the Amsoil website recommends (10W-40). My response was, "I thought 10W-40 would be the better weight." He replied, no,no, that oil is too thin. Sooo, if my dealer insists on either putting in 20W-50 Amsoil or the Victory oil, which is the better option?

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I think I would find another dealer. If they don't understand that we run our bikes on the higher number and just start them in cold weather on the lower number, they don't understand much about oils. What do they understand on other subjects?

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First off you should wight till you have a good 1500 miles on your bike before going to a synthetic oil. Rings and valves need time to seat in.
10/40 is a great weight and it will cool your motor just fine.
If you go to the top of the page and click on forum way down at the bottom is oil site and you will have a month of reading there.

If you have a fleet farm in your town you can get Amsoil cheaper there then any dealer or guy here. Use a Wix oil filter and you can save money

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If you just run Victory Oil & filter you know you won't have any problems. Its not like Vic oil is that expense.
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If you just run Victory Oil & filter you know you won't have any problems. Its not like Vic oil is that expense.
That's somewhat true. You can also say that a Vic engine only ticked 200,000 miles on AmsOil (RoadKill's 1999 V92C) and not on Vic oil.

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That's somewhat true. You can also say that a Vic engine only ticked 200,000 miles on AmsOil (RoadKill's 1999 V92C) and not on Vic oil.
Do we know it wouldn't of ran that long on vic oil?
To many variables to know.
Except a Harley never would of on any oil. Lol
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Do we know it wouldn't of ran that long on vic oil?
To many variables to know.
Except a Harley never would of on any oil. Lol
Yeah, this is why oil is one slippery subject. Makes for wonderful forum fun though.

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Service techs, service managers, parts guys....they got these opinions. Those opinions do not necessarily reflect fact and are often the result of propagating old wive's tales. I'm not going to interject opinions here, so here are facts:

Neither viscosity will damage the bike. Either is acceptable.

If you have to change viscosities, LOWERING the cold weight (in this case from 20w to 10w) is typically recommended. These oils flow easier at low temp and still offer the same protection at operating temp, which can help reduce wear from cold starts.

Amsoil recommends 10w-40 in the Vic motor (confirmed to me by Bob the Amsoil guy himself), and I'd trust them before some dealership greasemonkey's opinion

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Service techs, service managers, parts guys....they got these opinions. Those opinions do not necessarily reflect fact and are often the result of propagating old wive's tales. I'm not going to interject opinions here, so here are facts:

Neither viscosity will damage the bike. Either is acceptable.

If you have to change viscosities, LOWERING the cold weight (in this case from 20w to 10w) is typically recommended. These oils flow easier at low temp and still offer the same protection at operating temp, which can help reduce wear from cold starts.

Amsoil recommends 10w-40 in the Vic motor (confirmed to me by Bob the Amsoil guy himself), and I'd trust them before some dealership greasemonkey's opinion
Yes! What Luciferiad says makes perfect sense. 10/40 is the correct oil for your bike. As stated by Amsoil. There is absolutely no reason ever to go to a heavier weight oil. Victory Says 40 weight and forget about the 20 part. That was a marketing plot to be exclusive so you buy Vic oil.

My results with Amsoil has been worth the extra $8.00 it costs me over the Victory kit. Smoother operation thru out the motor and trans. 10 degree cooler running temp and better resistance to shearing.

I'm surprised your dealer offered the switch. My dealer wont use anything but Vic's oil.

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Do we know it wouldn't of ran that long on vic oil?
To many variables to know.
Except a Harley never would of on any oil. Lol
I rode a 1979 AMF Shovelhead 167,000 miles on H/D straight weight 50 and it took me 19 years to do it. Bike only stranded me when I ran it out of gas. It didn't make 200,000 I admit but that's a lot of miles for any motorcycle.

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