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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old 10-28-2011, 05:43 PM Thread Starter
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Default Opinions on oil please

Trying to get a consensus...

Of the dozen or so bikes I've owned the recommended "brand" oil (especially HD) has been WAY overpriced. Of course Victory has it's own synthetic 20/40 blend and I'm wondering has anyone found a less expensive alternative. I'm guessing any quality synthetic/dino blend of the proper weight would work, but I don't want to have trouble with clutch slippage, etc.
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Oil is a risky discussion; from my personal experiance all I can suggest is reading up in the oil and lube section of the forum. You should be able to find everything you need to know.

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Thanks I tried the search function but came up empty. Totally missed the oil and lube section.
FYI already found an alternative with a JASO MA 2 rating. Castrol ACT-Evo Xtra-4. Looks like exceeds standards at half the price.

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I ain't saying anybody oughta try this - just reporting what I recently did and how it's working O.K?
I have been wanting to try some 20-50 syn. blend oil for some time now. Reason being is that the 1st few miles of a ride it shifts much better than later when it gets hot and the oil thins out some. Thinking maybe a little heavier oil might help.
Anyway, I was at the dealership and was gonna p/u 5 qts of the 20-40 to change the oil. Parts man was on the phone so I was just looking around until he finished his call. They are a Suzuki dealer as well and low and behold, on the Suzuki display was some Suzuki oil - 20-50 syn blend. It was $4.55 a qt. (less than $4 after my discount)! So I buy 5 qts & make the change. Took a 150 mile ride and it put every other oil I've tried, regardless of price, syn and blends, to shame. Only got around 500 miles on it so I can't say how long it'll hold up but I'm tickled to death with it at this time.
As forementioned, I'm not recommending anyone try it 'cause frankly I don't give a hoot what anyone else uses, or doesn't use. Justing relaying what I've found.

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I went ahead and ordered the 5 qts of Castrol ACT-Evo Xtra-4 online for around $37 inc shipping. I'll get the filter from NAPA now all I need is that little crush gasket. I may have ot get that from the dealer. Hopefully it's not $10.

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You don't need to change the crush gasket every time. Only if it leaks. You can "refresh" it with a propane torch or other heat source. It's easy to change the gasket if it leaks when the motor is cold by unscrewing the plug, putting your finger over the hole, put the gasket on the plug and reinstall. Very little, if any, oil lost.

I've been using a blend of Rotella dino and Rotella synth but next time, since I have a good source for them, I'm going with Valvoline dino (3 qts) and Valvoline synth (2 qts) 20/40 4 stroke motorcycle oil. At walmart the dino is $3.88 and the synth is about $9 at Autozone. Cost is about half of what Victory sells. I use the Walmart Super Tech filter.

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Some numbers for you. This list comes from other sites, but all that I have tried have fit...

These Oil Filters have 20 x 1.5mm threads, 14 psi by-pass valve, anti-drain back valve, 2.3" O.D. gasket 2.5" to 3.5" long. If you have the room, the longer filters are recommended.

Motorcycle Filters.
•AC Delco PF2135
•AMSOil SMF103
•Carquest 85358
•AC Delco PF2135
•FRAM PH6017A
•Honda 15410-MCJ-000
•K&N KN-204. Metric nut on end for easy removal.
•NAPA Gold 1358
•Purolator ML16817. Imported, not made by Purolator.
•STP SMO 17
•WIX 51358

Recommended filters.
All have superior filtering.

About 2.5 inches long.
•Purolator Pure One PL14612.
•Mobil M1-108. Made by Champion.
•Bosch 3300. Made by Champion.
•Wal-Mart SuperTech ST6607. Made by Champion.

About 3.25 inches long.
•Purolator Pure One PL14610.
•Mobil 1 M1-110. Made by Champion.
•Bosch 3323. Made By Champion.
•WalMart SuperTech ST7317. Made by Champion.

Automobile Filters, about 2.5 inches long.
•AC Delco PF1237
•Baldwin B1400
•Firestone TF2876
•Hastings LF113
•NAPA Gold 1365
•Purolator L14612
•STP S-02876
•WalMart SuperTech ST6607
•WIX 51365

Automobile Filters, about 3.25 inches long.
•AC Delco PF-2057
•Auto Pro 2356
•Autopride CF240AP
•Baldwin B1402
•Carquest 85356
•Carquest Red B4620
•Casite CF240
•Castrol 7317
•Champion Labs Ph2867
•Defense Filters Dl7317
•Deutsch D-370
•Federated Filters LF240F

Automobile Filters, about 3.25 inches long.
•Fram Double Guard DG7317
•Fram PH7317
•Fram Tough Guard TG7317
•Fram Xtra Guard XG7317
•Group 7 V4610
•Group 7 V4620
•Hastings LF240
•Mighty M4612
•Motorcraft Long Life FL-821
•Napa FIL1356
•Napa Gold 1356
•Parts Plus PH2867
•Pennzoil PZ-109
•Penske 7317
•Powerflo SL14610
•Powerflo SL14620
•Pro Gauge PGO-4620
•Pro Tec 164
•Promotive PH4610
•Pronto PO3593A
•Purolator L14610
•Service Champ OF-4622
•Shell SH48
•Shell SH529
•STP S-02867.
•Valvoline VO50
•Warner PH2867
•Wix 51356
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If OIL is the blood of the motorcycle why would you use cheap oil.
If there was cheap blood for human's would you take out your good blood
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With Johnny but the most important thing about oil that you can check with your fingers is --That its slippery.

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Picked up a Pure one filter for $6 at pep boys. It's coated with some grip stuff that makes it easier to screw on. From everything I've read its a quality filter. I use them on my Shelby.I'll probably pick up an aftermarket magnetic plug with a real bolt on the end. Those hex plugs don't give me a lot of confidence

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If OIL is the blood of the motorcycle why would you use cheap oil.
If there was cheap blood for human's would you take out your good blood
But how do you determine what's good?

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