Join Date: Sep 2014
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Interesting points. Democrats proposed an amendment that would prohibit people on the "No Fly List" from buying guns. Republican's are against it because of the "Due process" laws. (I.E. The No Fly List does not cause guilt, just association)
The Orlando shooter is(was) on the no fly list, and if that law had been in effect, could not have purchased the weapons he used in the attack (understanding that he could have probably gotten them illegally).
So, which side do you agree with?
A very interesting and complicated question. It is one I am struggling with. I would side with what you say is the Republican position on this but just barely and not really for the same reason that you state is their reason. My concern is the invisibility and lack of any process to challenge being put on the "No Fly" list. There are lots of news reports of individuals being put on the "No Fly" list by mistake - perhaps they share a name or a birthday (or both) with the intended person or perhaps some bureaucrat or G-man just makes a mistake. There is no way to know your name is on the list. You are just denied the ability to fly anywhere. There is no where you can even verify that your name is on the list and there is certainly no place/court where you can challenge your placement on the list. As someone who flies a lot for my job, if my name was placed on this list by mistake, I would be out of a job. That hardly seems fair to be out of a job with no recourse becuse of the mistake of a bureaucrat.
If the hypothetical gun "No Buy" list was public and there were legal ways to challange being placed on the list, I would probably take the opposite side. However, since they are painting this "No Buy" list as being the same as the "No Fly" list and since it seems reasonable to assume the same invisibility and lack of appeals would apply, I have to side with what you say is the Republican position.
My reasons are not the same "due process" as those you mention above. I don't object to the lack of proven guilt but, rather, the lac of visibility and ability to appeal. Hope this makes sense.
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