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6.3 million children under the age of 15 years died in 2017,

either your god can do nothing to stop this or,
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You need to show something to support your claims. Is this in the USA or world wide. We make our own decisions not God. God gives us a means for eternal life, we make our life, destiny.

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6.3 million children under the age of 15 years died in 2017,

either your god can do nothing to stop this or,
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OK I searched it and found several articles about it. Seems this is in Africa, third world countries. Said most deaths were preventable. This has nothing to do with God. But everything to do with poor uneducated ignorant people and corrupt governments. God helps those that helps them selves and believes in Him. If you read the whole article from the time of that study to 2030 50% of the child deaths will be newborns. Like I said life is in our hands, eternal life is in our hands. God and Jesus just show us the way.

Anyone freaking out about over population should rejoice in those statistics.

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Great responses, I don't agree but at least well thought out opinions.

So I guess we just disagree.

So you don't want the government to touch your guns , I am with you to a point, but how do we stop the k job from
mass shooting incidents?


But you do want the government to control your body. Ending Roe v Wade won't end abortion in will just have them being
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So you don't want the government to touch your guns , I am with you to a point, but how do we stop the k job from
mass shooting incidents?
In most all of the mass shootings, there was a trail of red flags that were ignored, especially the Parkland one where many adults in a position of authority shirked their responsibilities. after the shooting, even students fessed up that they said nothing about Cruz and yet they knew he was a loose cannon.
So how do we stop mass shootings? If you see something, if you know something, you speak up. If you have the authority to investigate and quell the problem, DO IT!
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Great responses, I don't agree but at least well thought out opinions.

So I guess we just disagree.

So you don't want the government to touch your guns , I am with you to a point, but how do we stop the k job from
mass shooting incidents?


But you do want the government to control your body. Ending Roe v Wade won't end abortion in will just have them being
preformed illegally.
The majority of the nut jobs who do these shootings, bombings, stabbings, whatever, give lots of notice to people in positions to do something about them before they go Postal. Focus on those areas and they should be able to prevent the majority of them.

I'm not talking about Sally complaining about Mike; I'm talking about the police, FBI, school principals, and mental health professionals who came in contact with these nut jobs and either didn't do anything or couldn't due to policy or law.

After the movie "One flew over the cuckoo's nest" came out; the bleeding heart's demanded asylums be shut down all over the country and they got their way. Now we have these people roaming around killing in one way or another. Some are serial killers. If you really want to blame someone for this problem; blame those who pushed to shut down the mental health hospitals that used to take care of them.

Abortion is a real touchy subject because lots of people have such passionate feelings about it on both sides. I can see both sides and would like to see some kind of compromise but both sides are dug in as deep as they can get and neither plans on budging.

If someone were to ask my personal opinion I'd say a decent compromise for those who must get an abortion and for those who say it's a person at conception would be to agree on a point in the pregnancy that science has proven (to the best of its ability at this time) when that fetus actually does become a human being with the ability to feel pain. I've heard that's at 20 weeks (5 months) but a fair compromise would be 16 weeks (4 months). Any woman should know if they are pregnant long before that time of their pregnancy and be able to make a decision on whether to have that responsibility for the rest of their life. It's big decision. I think most women make that decision ahead of time but some are caught surprised I guess.

I want to see that male contraceptive proven to be safe for men and for any guy who doesn't want to be a father who will potentially pay child support for up to 26 years; they should use it. Until then there's always the Rubber Pony (Trojan Rubbers). I'd also like to see the sperm donor have some say in whether the woman has his child or not. I don't know how that would work but some say so would be appropriate I think. He too will have to know for the rest of his life he could have had a son or daughter if he votes to terminate.
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Here's one of those "inconvenient" truths they don't tell us about.

There are about 11000 freight ships roaming the seas moving products everywhere from everywhere.

Of those 11k ships; just less than 20 make as much pollution as all the cars in the world and they just started looking at regulating them in 2015.

So when some soft-headed enviro-whacko tells you to stop driving a fossil fueled vehicle to slow down the death of the planet you can safely tell him to shove it up his back hole.
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In most all of the mass shootings, there was a trail of red flags that were ignored, especially the Parkland one where many adults in a position of authority shirked their responsibilities. after the shooting, even students fessed up that they said nothing about Cruz and yet they knew he was a loose cannon.
So how do we stop mass shootings? If you see something, if you know something, you speak up. If you have the authority to investigate and quell the problem, DO IT!
Great response. I didn't notice you posted this before I did. Looks like we were thinking along the same lines.

The problem has never been about guns; it's just an inanimate tool in your tool chest. People do these crazy things. They could easily make biological weapons or bombs which would kill and/or hurt a lot more than a firearm but no one wants to talk about that. Stop the nut jobs and stop the problem.

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Fear based marketing, is used by our government to manipulate our populations to do what our government desires that the average citizen doesn't naturally desire.

Examples of places where fear based marketing has been used are: getting the nation to go to war when it is not a priority of the citizens (most US wars), promoting new tax schemes (climate change, sin taxes), new forms of transportation (electric cars, ride sharing) larger military budgets, anti smoking campaigns, anti drinking and driving campaigns. In this country people are continually immersed in this form of man made stress which I think is a problem for all..

Many people are very negatively effected by this added anxiety and stress while others suffer less from it. So while it fails to motivate some people at all, it makes others folks into nut jobs.

Fear based marketing is used because it is the most efficient way to herd the sheep so to speak.

It would be beneficial to most citizens if our government didn't use this form of manipulation "for our own good". I think we would be safer with less or none of it. Less stress might equal fewer nut jobs in the world doing stupid things like mass shootings... I would think that as a whole we would be healthier with less stress in our lives. That is what I keep reading anyway.
The nut jobs are more a symptom than the cause in this case. I think they are a symptom of living in an emotion pressure cooker.
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