You all can point fingers, tell me to stay out, call me a leftist and say my thoughts dangerous etc, etc, etc.... but it was "you all" that were are flinging shit at each other over thoughts, ideas, beliefs and whatever.
...My one and only point for this thread is simple....This is NOT good for the general forum or the members. With Victorys slowly disappearing, our forum is going to become a soap box for anyone with an idea to spout off about or a point to make, instead of a resource for remaining Victory owners to access.
I have no idea what ideology you subscribe to Pain. I do understand your concern about the number of political threads which is why I was kinda bummed when a new section was made so there would be lots of threads instead of just the one. Maybe the Administrators could make a new "Official Political" thread when one gets too big and make a link in the first post to the previous one. They could do that over and over as needed so just one thread gums up the forum instead of several for those with no interest in talking about this serious problem.
The truth is we live in a very turbulent time. I wish this weren't so but it is. Not talking about it not going to make it go away. Many of us have strong feelings and thoughts about it one way or another. Forums are about exchanging ideas, opinions, and thoughts; even off topic ones. It does bother me it's only leftists who have been pushing for censorship. I guess I assumed you are a leftist but the truth is I don't know.
Your right about this and the other Victory forums losing active posters. It would be easy to point fingers at the political conversations as a cause but the more likely reasons are that it's cold weather season (it always slows down then) and the fact that new Victory's have not been built for almost 2 years now so nowhere near the number of new riders show up looking to be part of the Victory community. We get the much lower number of those lucky few who have bought a used Victory and we lose members who sell their Vic's and move on. It's a natural and normal progression. Unfortunate but normal.
I belong to several car forums that talk about the 20 year old sports car I'm having fun with. If you think this forum is slow; you should see some of those. You can see they were once very active but with those cars being older; they just get one or two thread updates or new threads a week; if that sometimes.
The same thing will happen here and the VOG. I don't know what's happening with the V.M.C. Probably the same thing.
Your opinion is as valid as anyone's. Thanks for sharing your concerns. I'm also glad you decided to keep your Vic. I agree with the person who said to simply stay out of the R&P threads if you don't care for the type of banter that happens there.
I once realized getting email notifications about every thread I posted in was just too much for my inbox and me to handle so I turned that function off. Much better now. I only see new comments or threads when I choose to check in.