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post #1 of 41 (permalink) Old 02-10-2015, 02:40 PM Thread Starter
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I called a local Indian Dealership to get a price on the filter, installed, and reflashed. They said they would do it for $200.00. Is that a good deal? Do you guys recommend having the bike reflashed inlieu of having a fuel controller installed?


I'm also curious if they have a code for my Vance & Hines slip-ons with the Lloydz or if it would be the closest thing.

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Save your money. Wait until you can get a fuel controller and do them together. You'll get a lot more satisfaction and more for your money.
A "flash" is for a stage 1 (sound in a X bike) and the Lloydz filter may be too much flow for it leaving you lean.
As for the price, if that is filter, install and labor for the flash, it sounds pretty reasonable. Not the way I would go, but it is your ride and money.
Watch the "for sale" section and see what is out there.

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Why do you feel like it would run "lean"? I guess I'm asking what is the difference between a fuel controller and having it "reflashed"... Are they not the same thing?

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When I called Lloyds to order my air filter and PTS (timing gear) I asked them about fuel controller and the Vic gen III vs the PCV and if I would need one with the filter and gear upgrade. Their advice, wait to try out the filter and gear and see if I felt I needed it. The PCV is the preferred controller if I was going to get the bike dyno tuned other wise the Vic is fine and they would map it before sending it out.
So now I just need to wait for spring, BTW they did say if I do the exhaust the fuel controller is a must.

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Why do you feel like it would run "lean"? I guess I'm asking what is the difference between a fuel controller and having it "reflashed"... Are they not the same thing?
Almost half again the intake, along with the already free flowing exhaust. The bikes are pretty lean in stock form thanks to the EPA.
No a S1 flash isn't the same as a fuel controller. This is a Vic and for better worse and in between they are unique. Some say they are fine with the O2 sensors unplugged, and may be. Mine were unplugged, bone stock and I really didn't like the condition of the spark plugs at 18K. It was running hot and I just didn't like it. I never planned on any "performance" mods, but needed running mods. It did a lot of things I wanted and got some giddyup to boot.
You asked, I'm shocked you haven't had more response.
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if your going to get the filter, save tour money, get the filter, timing wheel, pcv, you will be much happier!!

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Thanks for the responses. Still trying to learn... I guess I'm a little slow... I have the V&H, so if I get the air filter, is the pcv or reflash required?

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i would say strongly recommended

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have you pulled the strip from in front of the filter? how about the O2 sensors? pull the strip and unplug the sensors for now.

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Thanks, I'll try that for now.

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