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post #1 of 13 (permalink) Old 06-15-2012, 10:15 PM Thread Starter
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I have been having problems with my IPOD freezing up. I hae a Gen 1 ipod. It has always worked great untill I started using it on the XC

Any insight?
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I have been having problems with my IPOD freezing up. I hae a Gen 1 ipod. It has always worked great untill I started using it on the XC

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Depending on which IPOD you have (specifically the ones with a hard drive inside), you're not supposed to use it on your motorcycle. The vibrations will kill it.

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I think you nailed it CR, (gen1) iPod .

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So what is the solution?

What generation of IPOD do I need?
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The Nano is the cheapest that will work, goes for about $125. You can find one on ebay for less.
The Shuffle is about $50, but it doesn't have the 30 pin connector that you need, so that's why you need a nano.

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Or,buy a friends old iPhone 3GS , no phone, use it as a iPod touch. That's what I did with my old iPhone.

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I'm using a Generation 1 ipod on my XCT and not having any issues with it freezing up while on the road. Now I do have one of the rubberized jackets on the ipod and it is sitting on a miracle cloth inside the cavity. If you can get to the store and see if you can get one that fits the gen 1 ipods, give that a go. It may be an inexpensive fix for you. Good luck!

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I'm using a Generation 1 ipod on my XCT and not having any issues with it freezing up while on the road. Now I do have one of the rubberized jackets on the ipod and it is sitting on a miracle cloth inside the cavity. If you can get to the store and see if you can get one that fits the gen 1 ipods, give that a go. It may be an inexpensive fix for you. Good luck!
I have the same on my IPOD it was also sitting on my rain gear bag. Can't pad it more then that
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Using the iPod from the Victory Vision Control Cubes .................................................. .............................16
What can you do with the stock jack?
The stock 1/8 inch stereo jack, located in the glove box area to the left of the console, can be used with any small music player that does not have a hard drive.
Just plug in your music player into the stock jack and hit play on the music player then set the radio to the AUX source and you will hear the music. You cannot change tracks, playlists’ or pause the player from the Vision control cubes. You would have to use the controls on the music player
You can still use the lower control cube on the left side to change the Volume and change the source for the radio from AM, FM, Weather and AUX. You can also Mute the audio. to change tracks, playlists’ or to pause the music.
If you want to change tracks, playlists’ or pause the music from the lower control cube on the left side, you will need two things, an iPod cable for the Vision and an iPod. Not just any iPod will work please read below.
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What iPod should I get?
The Victory Vision is not an official iPod/iPhone product authorized by Apple.
Not every iPod/iPhone/iPad is supported by the Victory Vision. For example, the iPod Shuffle does not have the proper connector on it to mate with Vision’s optional iPod cable. You could use the iPod Shuffle with the Stock Jack cable as listed above just like any other music player. The iPad is huge but could be used with an extension cable it you put the monster in a side bag or trunk.
Victory does not recommend any iPod that has a hard drive in it. So the iPod Classic is out. See below, iPods with Hard Drives.
That leaves the iPod nano, the iPod Touch and the iPhone
You might be thinking, “Good I will go out and buy a new iPod nano, iPod Touch or iPhone and be good to go!” if you ride a 2010 or newer Vision you are right. If you ride a 2008 or 2009 Vision read below, Charging not supported problem. . All of these units can be controlled by the Visions control cubes and radio buttons. You can change tracks or pause the music while riding down the road from the lower control cube on the left side and change the playlists from the radio buttons 2 though 12 on the dash of the Vision.
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“Charging not supported” problem for 2008 and 2009 Visions *** Important!! The original iPod cable from Victory (the white iPod cable part number 2876116) supports 12 volt Firewire charging only. Apple does not support 12 volt charging anymore on their current products. Apple changed the specification in 2006 to different pins for 5 volt and or 3.3 volt charging only.
Because of this, the new for 2009, Generation 4 iPod Nano’s, Generation 2 iTouch’s, and the G3 iPhone (or anything newer) will not charge on a 2008 or 2009 Vision using the Victory iPod cable part number 2876116. When you plug in one of these devices you will see the message “Charging is not supported with this accessory”. Without a charging adapter that supplies either 5 volt or 3.3 volt power to the proper pins, your iPod will work fine on the Vision but will not charge. The battery on the iPod will run out of power and the music will stop playing.
Fix1: Some Vision-Riders, like me, have used the “iPhone and iPod Charge Converter” adapter with success. The link to get one is listed below. Thanks sjavera for the post on Vision-Riders.com for this cheap fix! http://www.cablejive.com/iphone_3g_c...converter.html
If you will need an iPod cable for the 2008 and 2009 Victory Vision, here is the old part number. The iPod cable for the Victory Vision iPod® Power Cord & Console Link – Victory Vision $49.99 – Victory Item #: 2876116. This plus the Cablejive charge convertor is less money than the newer charging cable.
Fix2: The easier way to fix the same issue for the 2008 and 2009 Visions is the newer Black cable (part number 2877894) that will charge any iPod/iPhone for $99.99. It has a box in the cable that coverts the voltage and sends it to the correct pin to charge the iPod/iPhone.
You can also run the older iPod Nano’s (Generation 3 or older) without a charge adapter on any Vision.
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2010 and newer Vision’s
Starting with the 2010 year model they came out with a newer radio and a new iPod cable (Part number 2877195). This cable will work with any 2010 or newer Vision with a radio. (Sorry it will not for the stock Vision 8 Ball, no radio)
iPods with Hard Drives – Don’t do it. The hard drive will DIE.
The iPod nano, iPod Touch, iPad and the iPhone all use solid state memory. The memory has no moving parts.
An iPod Classic has a hard drive in it. Spinning disks with read write heads floating very close to the platters that contain the data.
iPods with hard drives should not be used in the Vision. They will work for a while but in the end, the hard drive units will fail.
Hard drives, like the one in the iPod Classic, have spinning disks and heads mounted on an arm that can move to read the magnetic data on the platters. The heads do not touch the disk but they float very close to the surface of the disk. It they do touch the disk it is called a head crash. A head crash can remove the coating that holds the magnetic data on the disk.
The ignition system is inches below the compartment that holds the iPod. It is possible that the lockup and other problems on the iPod classic are caused by the magnetic fields created by the spark plug wires. As the hard drive heads are trying to read the magnetic data from the disks, the spark plug wires are creating a large magnetic field.

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My Gen 1 worked until I did the lastest update. My other Ipod, newer style would disconnect and I would lose a speaker. I found that the rounded back allowed the plug to move and I could not find a way to stop it. I bought a Nano with the square back plug area and now all is well. I carpeted my bags with auto carpet, put the stiff velcro tape on the Nano and it sticks nicely to the carpet.

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