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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old 10-24-2012, 07:46 AM Thread Starter
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Was in Daytona this past weekend and at a gas stop ran into a couple of guys who both had 2011 Victory XC's...stock. I don't own a CC yet, but that will come. I started off the conversation with, so have you added a Stage 1 Kit, unplugged the O2 sensors, changed the air filter, etc. I was so surprised when they told me that both bikes were stock except for an iPod cable and the tall windshield. After buying their bikes they were told by the Victory mechanic that the tolerances on these bikes were very specifically set by Ma Victory and changing them would affect how the bike ran. I've reading posts here for 6 months or so now and what I have read is that the bike has to be modified to increase power, run cooler and get better gas milege. Are there any stock owners out their that have also had good results keeping their bikes at factory specs?

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mechanically my XR is bone stock. 24,500 miles, no complaints. Still contemplating exhaust & power commander, if it happens it'll be after I pay it off.

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The bikes are designed to run stock with no problems, its peoples desire to increase power, or improve fuel economy, or run cooler that makes them change things, its not a necessary step.

Myself, my bike was never stock, atleast not beyond whatever QA testing the factory did to it, because my dealer had stage 1 filter/tune/exhuast on it before I even picked it up from them. I am a performance junkie though, theres a reason my last 7 cars have been big V8's. Love the sound and performance of a big engine. Eventually I will cam my bike, and maybe even do other internal work, but none of it is a necessity, it runs just fine from the factory (My only experience is a few test drives of 30-40 mins each but they ran like a charm, part of why I bought one).

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I originally ran stock, then wanted more power. I unhooked the O2 sensors, did exhaust, Vic performance filter and Stg 1 flash and then stopped. What I noticed was an unacceptable way the bike ran. It started backfiring and MPG noticeably dropped. I picked up Llyodz air filter to offset the issues I was having. They remained. I was recently "awarded" a significant speeding ticket that caused me to look evaluate what I was doing. I hooked up the O2 sensors and reinstalled the air strip around the filter (yes, it needed to be modified) so I'm as close to stock as I'll get.

The results, backfiring has all but been eliminated and my MPG is closer to the 50 others are reporting. My loss of power? I cannot even notice it, if it IS indeed lost. I've kicked around the idea of a fuel controller and cams but right now, for me, it seems like a waste. I want a solid bike with good to great power for any ride, long or short, I want to take. That is exactly what I have.

Oh, and to that heat thing. I only notice a buildup of heat with my closeouts on.

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I hooked up the O2 sensors and reinstalled the air strip around the filter (yes, it needed to be modified) so I'm as close to stock as I'll get.

The results, backfiring has all but been eliminated and my MPG is closer to the 50 others are reporting. My loss of power? I cannot even notice it, if it IS indeed lost.
I had the Stage 1 done before I took it home. I had ridden a stock X bike during a demo event and it was fine, but felt a little docile, especially compared to the stock cruisers.

The Stage 1 gave it a little more zing and a throatier quawk. The sensor removal and airbox mod didn't seem to change anything as best I could tell except I seem to get poorer mileage when the sensors are disconnected. I kinda like the intake honk with the strip removed however, but for those bothered by engine noises, this probably isn't the mod for you...




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Hey Folks, thanks for the replies. I did test ride a Victory XC about 2-3 months ago for the first time. I enjoyed everything the bike had to offer; its sleek look, craftmanship, the room and the comfort. I wasn't at all happy with the stock sound. That's probably because I'm coming from a bike that currently has the V&H Cruisers exhaust. My plans (until this weekend) were to add the Stage 1 Kit. Based on what was told to me this weekend and from other stock owners here, it might seem that the power and sound developed from adding the Stage 1Kit is hard to detect and it might cause some unwanted problems. Is there another way to change the bike's sound without adding the Stage 1 Kit?
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Bone stock except for the seat. I got off a Goldwing, so things are very different. No complaints, especially after adout 4500 miles. The engine seemed to come to life.

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Hey Folks, thanks for the replies. I did test ride a Victory XC about 2-3 months ago for the first time. I enjoyed everything the bike had to offer; its sleek look, craftmanship, the room and the comfort. I wasn't at all happy with the stock sound. That's probably because I'm coming from a bike that currently has the V&H Cruisers exhaust. My plans (until this weekend) were to add the Stage 1 Kit. Based on what was told to me this weekend and from other stock owners here, it might seem that the power and sound developed from adding the Stage 1Kit is hard to detect and it might cause some unwanted problems. Is there another way to change the bike's sound without adding the Stage 1 Kit?
In my opionion its the unplugging the O2 and pulling the strip off the air filter that causes excessive popping and even backfiring because the fuel programming is not setup to run that way. I currently use Stage 1 filter, Stage 1 tune, and Ness Thunder exhaust. Great sound, no backfire, very little decel popping. If I were going to do it again, I would probably do the ness pipes, state 1 tune, and lloyds air filter instead of the full stage 1 setup that I originally ordered.

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I am stock for right now (just owned it a month) but plan on keeping it that way for a while. Gonna take off the tank badges when I get around to it, not that I don't like the badges, but they don't seem to fit well with the tank and my right one is already loose on the top third. The only mod I will probably do is change pipes but gonna do some more reading and hope to run into some guys who have aftermarket/modified exhausts. Don't want loud, just a nice rumble and right now I am leaning toward the witchdoctors baffled or may do the exhaust mods myself. I came from an 800 Suzuki so the 106 is plenty powerful enough for me plus I like to keep my mpg's in the mid 40's if I can.

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7400 miles and the only mod is unhooked O2 sensors.
stays around 45 mpg -2 up all the time. no probs.

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hard bags,xc adj pass footrests, color keyed side
chin fairings. 7 jurock custom made windshield.
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