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Children size hands to work on these bikes??? Shit it sucked getting to my throttle cables just now!!! Is it aero dynamics? Is it money saving? Wth!! Or is it get the consumer aggravated enough that he goes back to dealer for simple things!!!! Sorry end of rant!!!
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I have found that maintenance is given very little thought in design any more. It used to be that products were designed to be easily repaired .... Now we live in a disposable society. Throw it out rather than fix it.

In the case of the throttle cables I doubt the factory considered anyone needing / wanting to adjust. Take the tank off and it is an easy project ... The time taken to remove the seat and tank (at least more it to gain access) is relatively insignificant at the current shop rates

BTW .... Did it take 15mins like the WD videos? Lol

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I have found that maintenance is given very little thought in design any more. It used to be that products were designed to be easily repaired .... Now we live in a disposable society. Throw it out rather than fix it.

In the case of the throttle cables I doubt the factory considered anyone needing / wanting to adjust. Take the tank off and it is an easy project ... The time taken to remove the seat and tank (at least more it to gain access) is relatively insignificant at the current shop rates

BTW .... Did it take 15mins like the WD videos? Lol

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Hell no it didn't take 15 min like the video!! Haha

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I think it all boils down to fitting 10 lbs into a 5 lb bag. We got a great big motor, all sorts of gadgets and devices, plus we got to fit it all into a package that is a normal size for a motorcycle....

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I have found that maintenance is given very little thought in design any more. It used to be that products were designed to be easily repaired .... Now we live in a disposable society. Throw it out rather than fix it.

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While I agree that we are by and large living in a disposable society, I can't disagree more with the thought that maintenance is not given any thought in design. I've personally met with a number of people over the years who's sole job description is to analyze early designs and find the maintenance issues. In some cases they are engineers who can then alter the design to make things easier to get to, in other cases all they can do is pass their findings along. I'm not saying that every thing they find is corrected (a statement which is obvious to anyone who's ever turned a wrench) but to say that maintenance is not considered is an inaccurate statement.

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I think it all boils down to fitting 10 lbs into a 5 lb bag. We got a great big motor, all sorts of gadgets and devices, plus we got to fit it all into a package that is a normal size for a motorcycle....
This is much more accurate and holds true for bikes as well as cars, computers, phones, etc. We want more and more features, more power, more fuel economy, fewer emissions, more comfort, etc. etc. but the total package size can't increase nor can the weight (and they must both frequently decrease). The only option is to pack things tighter together and integrate as many previously separate components as possible. This makes servicing more difficult but achieves all the other goals. It's somewhat analogous to the old saying, you can have good, cheap, or fast, pick two.

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