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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old 09-21-2015, 11:42 AM Thread Starter
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Hi All,

I have a new symptom what I cannot seem to fix.. I need some help.

When I downshift and release the clutch, I get a ratcheting noise. Instead of the bike engine breaking it ratchets.

example, When in 5th gear and drop it to 3 coming to a light about 50mph, I slowly release the clutch and it sounds like an impact wrench. I am not dropping the clutch just letting it out slowly just like I have done many times before. As soon as I am down in the 30mph, 1500 rpm, area it will not ratchet and engine breaks perfectly. It happens in 6, 5, 4, and 3 gears.

Is there a misalignment in the Clutch that is getting worse?

Anyone else have this problem? HELP
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Hi All,

I have a new symptom what I cannot seem to fix.. I need some help.

When I downshift and release the clutch, I get a ratcheting noise. Instead of the bike engine breaking it ratchets.

example, When in 5th gear and drop it to 3 coming to a light about 50mph, I slowly release the clutch and it sounds like an impact wrench. I am not dropping the clutch just letting it out slowly just like I have done many times before. As soon as I am down in the 30mph, 1500 rpm, area it will not ratchet and engine breaks perfectly. It happens in 6, 5, 4, and 3 gears.

Is there a misalignment in the Clutch that is getting worse?

Anyone else have this problem? HELP
I'm not sure if my sound is the same as yours but recently, I started getting a similar sound when downshifting to first which made me fear an issue with first gear. Well I am here today doing a search on "clutch cable" since mine snapped today. I don't know if the noise was a sign the cable was going (hopefully!) or something else.

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Hi All,

I have a new symptom what I cannot seem to fix.. I need some help.

When I downshift and release the clutch, I get a ratcheting noise. Instead of the bike engine breaking it ratchets.

example, When in 5th gear and drop it to 3 coming to a light about 50mph, I slowly release the clutch and it sounds like an impact wrench. I am not dropping the clutch just letting it out slowly just like I have done many times before. As soon as I am down in the 30mph, 1500 rpm, area it will not ratchet and engine breaks perfectly. It happens in 6, 5, 4, and 3 gears.

Is there a misalignment in the Clutch that is getting worse?

Anyone else have this problem? HELP
My bike does this too , always has , but more-so in the lower gears ....

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Miss adjusted clutch cable (or an EZ clutch installed) or friction plates sticking will cause those symptoms.
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My first question on this thread is are you using factory Victory oil or have you switched to a different brand.

Second, is this happening when the bike is not warmed up completely or after running it for at least 30 minutes.

The chatter or ratcheting that you're hearing used to be quite common on the Jap bikes of the 1970's. When your oil is too cool to flow adequately away from between the clutch plates you can get a chatter when engaging the clutch usually on a down shift because you disengage the clutch for a longer period downshifting than upshifting allowing more oil to actually flow between the plate(s).

I haven't heard of this on a Vic before so I'm interested in your response.

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Tested the question. It is more prominent in the lower gears 3rd and down. Also it does not seem to matter on if the oil is cold or not. I am running Vic oil with about 1200 on this change.

Could my clutch alignment along with oil be enough to cause the problem.. hmmm
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Mine is much more prominent when cold .

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I have a hydraulic clutch on my XC and I get this sound shifting from 3rd to 2nd when I don't completely release my clutch in a timely manner. In other words when I get lazy with my downshifting. Been doing it for 42,000 miles. Never does it when I don't dawdle.
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I've got a new 2015 XCT with only 658 miles on it. I've had this ratcheting problem since around 250 miles. It only happens to me when downshifting into 3rd and 2nd when the engine is warm. Even after the 500 mile "first service" when the oil was changed, it has continued to do this. I talked with a friend of mine who works the Victory demo rides across the country about it and he indicated it was no big deal. His advice to me was "don't baby it." He felt I was being too gentle with the downshifting. I'm not sure his advice really helped. Some days I still have this problem and other days I don't. I just ignore it when it happens since it seems to eventually "catch".

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I noticed something like this on my 2012 XC last week for the first time.... Changed my oil (it was due) and it's back to normal... Hope yours goes away too...

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