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This has come up in some threads but I thought I'd post my experience for its own sake. I just hit 10.5k miles on the set of Commander II's I put on at the start of this season. I've run them at mostly at 40 front/42 rear psi and with the proper dose of Ride-On sealant since new(I've used Ride-On for years in all my bikes)
The Michelin Commander II's are a fine tire but had one glaring flaw running on my Vic....they instigated a wobble in high speed turns.
At first it was "conditional" on long highway sweepers at steady speeds that started the wobble but now up in the mileage it doesn't take much, almost every turn at speed I can feel some wobble through the bars and its now down right scary on those highway sweepers.
My best guess is that this is due to the bias-ply design of the Commander II's. Or the wobbling could be due to the 65 rear tire or maybe the combination of the two. In any case I was hoping to get 15k out of these but I'm not going to push it, in the spring I'm changing over to a set of Metzler ME888's, these are radial and the proper size for the Vic XC

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I have the me888 on the rear and love it .... Anyway for 6 months i have a very small fork leak on 1 side and sins 3 months occasionally have a wobble, and my dunlop front is worn until the markings .... So what i am saying is, it could be a bit of both ... ?

Do you have ceramic balancer's in your tires ? Coz you put ride-on seal ?

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My Dunlop's have over 17000 miles on them , I check them regularly and run 3lbs more in each tire then recommended since I realized this is an important tactic for tire longevity ... I'm buying them again this winter .

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My Commander II's have never has a problem in any type of riding from hauling the mail in the mountains to 85 mph interstate cruising. I got 19K on my last pair.

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bias ply tyres like damper rod forks are outdated, but used for their cheapness. test rode a scout last week, talk about poor tyres, cheap kenda bias ply, goes with the weak front brake causing a chirp + slip on firm application!!
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Ride-On did not balance well in my E3s and my very experienced tire man has even sworn off of it for Dyna Beads. When my E3s were removed, the Ride-On was all over the inside of the tires and on the rims. What a huge mess. The Dyna Beads have been magic in my Avon Cobras. I would do both again.
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bias ply tyres like damper rod forks are outdated, but used for their cheapness. test rode a scout last week, talk about poor tyres, cheap kenda bias ply, goes with the weak front brake causing a chirp + slip on firm application!!
I never had a problem with the tires or brakes when I road one. It's a small bike and a single disc works just fine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What do you mean vcc,
vics & Indians are small bikes ?? Not understand what your saying

The JP have a single disk on front and it does work "fine" but most of us had jap bikes all with double disc's in front and the weight is less then Polaris .... And i could only imagine a jap bike with double disks and less weight making a shorter stop then ANY Polaris bike ...

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OP pAiN # do you have a small fork leak ? Is your tire worn more then half ? Maybe you should try dyna beads in stead of ride-on stuff ? On amazon or ebay you can buy family bags of dyna beads, ceramic or stainless, good price and they will do the job ....

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Going back to the vibration part :

OP pAiN # do you have a small fork leak ? Is your tire worn more then half ? Maybe you should try dyna beads in stead of ride-on stuff ? On amazon or ebay you can buy family bags of dyna beads, ceramic or stainless, good price and they will do the job ....
Its not "vibration"..the tires cause a wobble in high speed turns and now that they are 10,000+ miles worn its getting more frequent and pronounced.
I'll stick with Ride-On, I'm sure the DynaBeads work fine but they offer no sealant protection. I always have my tires weight balanced anyway so its the sealant effect that I want.

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bias ply tyres like damper rod forks are outdated, but used for their cheapness. test rode a scout last week, talk about poor tyres, cheap kenda bias ply, goes with the weak front brake causing a chirp + slip on firm application!!
This is the furthest from the truth. Bias tires handle higher loads and without cupping like bias tires. Yes high performance bikes benefit from the ability to ride over 130 mph. Cheaper is not the reason bias tires still exist in motorcycles.
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