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post #1 of 55 (permalink) Old 10-30-2015, 03:25 PM Thread Starter
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I have a brand new '15 XCT, 550 miles on it. Dealer installed Witchdoctor baffled slip on mufflers and Loyd's fuel controller. The other day while riding the fuel line slipped off the fuel tank nipple. Dumped 1\2 tank of fuel out on the rear tire and lost traction leaving a light. Luckily I was next to a gas stop so took off the tank and slip the line back on the fuel nipple until it clicked, put in a gallon and rode 10 miles home without a problem. Then next day as I was feathering the clutch to turn left at a light the engine stalled. Pulled in the clutch and it started immediately. I felt it start to stall again at another light, as I was creeping along, but was able to keep it going. To say the least it's dangerous and I'm pissed. I have searched and seen many post about this dangerous and curious stalling problem. Any thought as to why and how to fix. Thanks

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I have a brand new '15 XCT, 550 miles on it. Dealer installed Witchdoctor baffled slip on mufflers and Loyd's fuel controller. The other day while riding the fuel line slipped off the fuel tank nipple. Dumped 1\2 tank of fuel out on the rear tire and lost traction leaving a light. Luckily I was next to a gas stop so took off the tank and slip the line back on the fuel nipple until it clicked, put in a gallon and rode 10 miles home without a problem. Then next day as I was feathering the clutch to turn left at a light the engine stalled. Pulled in the clutch and it started immediately. I felt it start to stall again at another light as I was creeping along but was able to keep it going. To say the least it's dangerous and I'm pissed. I have searched and seen many post about this dangerous and curious stalling problem. Any thought as to why and how to fix. Thanks
First tip would be to check the battery connections as this seems to be a common problem with new bikes and causes all sorts of weird behavior.

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Rev it up more when taking off
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whose map is in the fuel controller.
It might not be set right. If dealer put in map stop. Call Lloydz and get a map from him

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Your engine is still very tight--it takes around 3,000 miles to break it in. I was having stall problems, called Lloydz and they recommended their IAV (adjustable air/idle valve) and that helped. You might also want to consider installing Lloydz adjustable timing wheel to get away from EPA settings. Did the dealer disconnect and/or remove the O2 sensors? They have to be out of there for the Lloydz VFCIII to work--if that's the one you have.
All three posts that precede mine have valuable tips you should follow....
+ Place external star lock washers under the battery bolts and tighten 'em. They have a tendency to loosen.
+ Use 3,000 RPM plus for shifting and do not operate under 2500 RPM.
+ Call Lloydz as VJ recommends, not only for fuel controller settings, but second opinions re the timing wheel and idle valve.

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Most seem to set the VFCIII way to rich. Are you a throttle blipper if so stop it for one you look foolish doing it and second these bike don't like it and feel foolish having you do it so they shut off.
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Like I said l am feathering the clutch and feeding fuel, creeping into an intersection. Then when traffic clears and I give it gas, it dies. I don't understand why some people don't like it when some people rev the engine. These motors are dogs off the line. They don't work well at low rpm. I really have to rev it above 2500 to get it to move. The issue is not how I operate the motor. It's called a lean stall and its dangerous. I added a fuel controller to eliminate the lack of low rpm torque. I believe I need to have my dealer that installed the controller increase fuel map at low rpm. Any other suggestions, besides don't blip, would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. PS I guess I could get a goldwing, they have unbelievable torque and throttle response at all rpm. I also think that Vic would be much better with throttle by wire. With efi the throttle responds better by wire.
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If you have a bike that is a staller as both of ours were be sure to go here: https://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/VehicleComplaint/
and fill out a complaint, while your still pissed.
Also write a return receipt requested letter to Victory telling them how you feel about the stalling issue.

The loose battery cables will definitely screw you up. These bikes get really weird if they aren't getting a good connection.

You might want to read through this: https://www.victoryforums.com/8-victo...ff-bike-2.html

His bike had a cracked or defective vacuum line which was the real problem but there is all sorts of advice there on how to keep them from stalling if you have one that stalls.

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Are you coming off a Harley by chance? If so you will need to learn how to use your rpm's differently and shift at a higher rpm (around 3k).

The ATS will help your low end grunt and of course the usual air filter, exhaust, tuner, and tune to slap the EPA out of it.
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Are you coming off a Harley by chance? If so you will need to learn how to use your rpm's differently and shift at a higher rpm (around 3k).

The ATS will help your low end grunt and of course the usual air filter, exhaust, tuner, and tune to slap the EPA out of it.

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ATS fixes a lot of low rpm issues....

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