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post #1 of 46 (permalink) Old 12-19-2015, 10:34 AM Thread Starter
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Oh man. About set on wanting a Vision I had been looking at. But another has come up, newer bike and @ a dealer so I could trade mine. Then I got to thinking one of the things the wife and I commented on was storage. We have a 09 Yamaha Venture currently and can pack quite a bit. So one of the reasons I'm looking to trade is storage on trips, but also the RSV is sort of top heavy and even with a adjustment to suspension I am not totally flat footed.
I have test rode the XC and CR both feel about the same to me, as I guess they should. The CR I am looking at has 33k on it and the leather looking bags. I am guessing they are not lockable rite? It has the windshield on it so how is the wind protection behind it for driver and passenger? Wind on passenger? Does it buffet them around. Sorry but its been probably 3-4yr since we took a test drive on one. The CR has a Corbin seat on it and appears to be a touring type as it is wide on the passenger side also. The RSV has a super comfy seat and was one of the reasons we leaned towards it.
Also the CR has ABS which I think if I switch bikes is going to be a must have. I tried looking in Victory parts catalog, but no listing for the "add on" fairing that use to be available. Is an add on cruise still available if this bike dont have it? Don't really want the throttle lock thing again.
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In 2010 - 2011, I started seriously looking at the Vics. At first, I thought the Vision was a little too swoopy for my tastes, but the more I visited Vic dealers the more I liked it. But when the XCT came out, it was game over. The Tour has so much more room than the Vision; the top case is larger on the XCT, and the saddlebags are much larger. I know that some folks say that you don't need to pack the kitchen sink, but tell that to my wife. Me, I'm not gonna argue.

I had a Corbin seat on a '97 Beemer, and it was too hard, IMHO. And I keep reading, throughout the years, similar comments. So I'm definitely not a fan of Corbin seats.

Regarding wind management, and cruise, and so forth, I think you'd be better off with a Tour. All that -- and heated seats and grips, and the trunk, and adjustable passenger mini-boards, and more -- is built in. By the time you finish screwing around with an XC -- to make it XCT-like -- you'd be better off just getting an XCT in the first place. IMHO.

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Thanks Bill. But the CR is what they have in the price range I have to deal with. Heated seats and grips not a big deal here in Central Fla. LOL Now if they were AC that would be a player. I love the looks of the Vision, but cargo management is a down fall for sure. I like the lines and it sure a heck don't look like anything else out there and I like that. Current bike has leg fairings like XCT and except when raining, most of the time I would be OK without them, more air flow. This bike I'm looking into don't have highway bars either so I could gostandard round tube or the flat iron jobs, which set the bike apart from the "other" american bikes. Would also have to add backrest/luggage rack and jumping back and forth weather would go trunk route or not. @ 1800 bucks for the OEM job wowzers. Looked at some after market jobs that would be OK from Matzu for less and could make it so it bolts on for around town stuff and remove for longer trips to use soft luggage I have. Before the RSV had a Kawaski Vulcan 900.
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Expand your search area for a bike. Vic's all over at good prices if you don't mind taking a trip to find one.

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Definitely dig more into price options. You can find a XCT for around $14,000 if you look in the right places. And as far as mileage goes, it's just a number on these motors!
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I started riding Yammy Ventures in '83 and had a '92 when I got my 2010 Cross Roads. I thought I'd be giving up wind and weather protection, but my XR's is every bit as good with the stock medium height windshield. Cancer and age had me getting away from from the Venture--too tall, too heavy, too top heavy for me. I opted for the XR cuz I wanted to simplify, besides, I never turned on the tunes in my Ventures. I am enjoying the uninterrupted view the plexi fairing affords me and its removable for riding when the weather gets hot. So glad I got it.

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>500,000 km's on Ventures - almost bought a 1999 new in 1999 - it didn't move me! In 2007 bought a Nomad - ugh! This XCT is the first bike that close to the old Ventures and I think exceeds it in certain points. I liked the Vison - no storage - wife refused to ride on it - so we got the XCT. Only concession was I put armrests on! Had them on every Venture ( 4 of them) and I didn't like the factory one's so I made a set from the old Markland one's I had kicking around from my Venture days! Actually I had 2 sets so one is still in a box just in case!
Buy an XCT - then if you want you can take off the lowers if it's too hot, plus the trunk comes off so you can have a lighter feeling bike when you want and when it comes time to go tourin you can just put stuff back on and rack up the smiles!

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Ohhhh and the hits just keep coming. So we were doing some Christmas shopping in the town where the Cr is located. So I got wife to go and look at bike. Seat was uncomfortable as all get out, and as mentioned no trunk for her. To add one is something like 3k by the time you buy brackets, top-bottom-padding etc. So I'm up around 13k for a bike I will still have to add on some stuff. She says whats the other options. So we went in and looked at some new units. XCT and a Vision. both in the 18k range. OUCH not what I had even imagined to look at. But kind of leaning towards the XCT vs the Vision. Storage is main concern. Minus side for the XCT is non adjustable windshield. I dunno, I figure once I figure where I want it probably wont be adjusting it anyways.. Will have to figure out something for radios on both as sales guy says they are not bluetooth and we have Sena SMH 10 headsets.

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If you get the Madstad brackets for your XCT you will have an adjustable windshield. Not everyone likes the look but I swear by them and don't think they look bad at all.

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If you're a member at Venturers.org, look up posts by me. When i traded in my 2006 RSV for a 2012 Cross Country Tour, I wrote up a comparison on that site. It should be in the 'Other Models' or 'Other Brands' section of that forum.

If you enjoy the storage capacity of the RSV, and if that is important to you, then the only way for you to go is to the XCT. It will increase your storage capacity. All other options will decrease it.

XCT is not top-heavy like the RSV, and the seat is lower to the ground.

I'm using the stock seat on my XCT, and am quite comfortable with it, after nearly 50,000 miles. No stock seat is as plush as the pillow seat on an RSV, but 'plush' is not the only way to be comfortable. Seats are a very personal choice. Try. It out, along with your passenger, and decide what is right for you.

You can add Bluetooth accessories to XCT, to connect the audio system with your Sena SMH-10 headsets. Be aware that you will have to buy several parts that are not clearly specified, so the process may be frustrating and more expensive than it first appears to be. Victory's way of selling these audio accessories is annoying and your dealers probably will not know what they say that they know.

You've not had an adjustable windshield on your RSV. The one on the Vision is really cool, but XCT doesnt have it. However, you can buy a manually-adjustable shield and brackets for XCT. Its called 'Madstad', made in Florida, possibly near you. Search for it on this forum, and you will find information and pictures.

Unless you're ready to move down to a less-equipped bike than your current RSV ride, you should be getting yourself a Cross Country Tour. Vision is a really cool bike, and has that electrically-adjustable windshield, but storage room is not what it ought to be. Cross Roads is a cool bagger, but storage is definitely a step down from what you already have in the RSV, there is no audio, less rain protection, and the one you were looking at has no engine guards (crash bars). I think you will be building it into an XCT. Just get an XCT.
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