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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old 02-03-2013, 11:49 AM Thread Starter
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I decided to bite the bullet and go with a cleanable and reusable filter element for my XC. For me, it's worth the extra coin now, with all the benefits this type of oil filter offers. Looking forward to changing out the oil and filter this spring.
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I gave it some thought too and probably would have gotten at least one and maybe two since I have the two Vic's in the garage but at my age I would not have gotten a full return on this investment.

One thing I really like about them is you can easily see the metal particles when you clean it between oil changes. It's good to see if there is ever an increase or maybe a decrease if switching between oils.
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Very good point.

I'm using the magnetic drain plug as well and with the magnet built into this filter, I'll have a good look at any metal particles during changes. When I switched to Amsoil after my 500 mile service, I should have gone with this filter at that time.

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I don't see the benefit in it. You can get a Wix for $6.89. You would half to go threw 40 some Wix filters. I dought if filters any better then paper.
How you going to clean that screen filter. Carb cleaner. More out of pocket money. A lot of recycle oil places will not take oil with carb cleaner in it. I guess you just spray it off in back yard and kill the grass or in the kitchen sink. How many paper towels are you going to use. Now your spending what twenty minuets to clean it. Thats something. It doesn't keep the oil any cooler no matter what they say.
It just seams like I could take the money and buy a fuel tuner or a IAV or put towards cams.
I just don't see the benefit in it. not picking on any one just saying

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I don't see the benefit in it. You can get a Wix for $6.89. You would half to go threw 40 some Wix filters. I dought if filters any better then paper.
How you going to clean that screen filter. Carb cleaner. More out of pocket money. A lot of recycle oil places will not take oil with carb cleaner in it. I guess you just spray it off in back yard and kill the grass or in the kitchen sink. How many paper towels are you going to use. Now your spending what twenty minuets to clean it. Thats something. It doesn't keep the oil any cooler no matter what they say.
It just seams like I could take the money and buy a fuel tuner or a IAV or put towards cams.
I just don't see the benefit in it. not picking on any one just saying
There's the beauty of how you don't see the value in this product and how I do see the value in this product. I'll agree to disagree.

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I don't see the benefit in it. You can get a Wix for $6.89. You would half to go threw 40 some Wix filters. I dought if filters any better then paper.
How you going to clean that screen filter. Carb cleaner. More out of pocket money. A lot of recycle oil places will not take oil with carb cleaner in it. I guess you just spray it off in back yard and kill the grass or in the kitchen sink. How many paper towels are you going to use. Now your spending what twenty minuets to clean it. Thats something. It doesn't keep the oil any cooler no matter what they say.
It just seams like I could take the money and buy a fuel tuner or a IAV or put towards cams.
I just don't see the benefit in it. not picking on any one just saying
VJ, I don't often disagree with you, but this time I do.

I stated why I wouldn't buy one but also stated where I see the value. Do you not see the value in being able to see the contaminates in the oil? Yes, with some work and the right tools, you could open up a regular oil filter and see much of those same contaminates but how practical is that to do every oil change?

It isn't a big deal to keep a can of carb cleaner around to dip the filter in and clean it. probably use that same can for years and years because the sediment will fall to the bottom. Then a quick spray of spray carb cleaner would finish the job. One paper towel or shop rag and a tooth brush style brush would do it.

Also, from what I have read about oil filters, they don't always have the micron filtering they state it does. There is a range they will be in but it could be in the larger range where this cleanable filter will consistently clean the oil at the same micron rating over and over again almost indefinitely. Someone young enough to take advantage of these could use the same one on bike after bike over the years. At some point it will actually pay to use it.

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I had one on my Kingpin. I did not buy it to save money.
I bought it because of the magnet and was easy to clean. It also looked very cool.

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I've had one for about a couple of years now. Saving money is not the reason to buy one of these so if that's your reason don't buy one. It takes a long time as has been mentioned to break even. The real benefit is in the filters performance as far as filtering and flow. Flow is very important to the oil cooling system our Vic's have. Also,most engine wear is caused at first start up on a cold engine and regular filters can impede the oils ability to counter this and that's where these filters make sense to get filtered oil to the engine quicker with less by-pass.

I've had the opportunity to clean mine a couple of times now and I have yet to find anything on it so that means there isn't that type of wear taking place or the filter is not catching it but I have no reason to believe it's not doing it's job. These things are rated for use in aircraft through the FAA's tight standards so I'm sure they should be more than adequate for our motorcycle engines.
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I agree with 40XC. In the drag racing world we use them for those exact reasons and to tell us what is going on inside the engine. Changing the oil every 1-3 passes these type filters are a must to see anything happening to the motor/bearings. For maintenance freaks like me I wouldn't have anything else.
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One thing I am curious about is the oil ring seal, and how does the by-pass spring over time work or fail? Putting new in every oil change I do not worry about these two important things when I drive down the road. If you are at a track you do not have to go far for a failure. 300 miles from home then the engine starts to knock. Just my input and view point from past experiences.

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