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Ok,
Here goes, The group I ride with all have CB's and intercomms, came from a GL1800 with all the trimmings.

First blush I have mounted a J&M CB/Intercom because I wanted the low/Hi power settings. Low for in a group and HI for distance. Before you guys jump me I know the CB is a Line of sight transmitter,

Reading thu the Victory owners manual and found out the the Victory system is also a local/distance ( hi/lo) system. Do any of you have the Victory CB installed and how do you like it, how well does it perform?

Thanks in advance


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Hum, No radio riders out there?

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I have the CB, it work well, every CB I've had is different. The transmit is strong and clear, the receive could be better. I cant hear much further than half a mile. I know one Vision rider with a radio, but he's used it so little he doesn't have an opinion.

I've made a custom bracket to move the antenna from its stock location. Stock has it at an angle, I put it up beside the trunk and vertical.

I've had the J&M radios, they're good radios.

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Thanks,
I was reading thru the owners manual and found out there was a local and distance setting on the CB.... which is what I was looking for from J&M.

The intercomm works well?

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Ok,
Here goes, The group I ride with all have CB's and intercomms, came from a GL1800 with all the trimmings.

First blush I have mounted a J&M CB/Intercom because I wanted the low/Hi power settings. Low for in a group and HI for distance. Before you guys jump me I know the CB is a Line of sight transmitter,

Reading thu the Victory owners manual and found out the the Victory system is also a local/distance ( hi/lo) system. Do any of you have the Victory CB installed and how do you like it, how well does it perform?

Thanks in advance

I have a J&M on my TC with a J&M antenna and also the same model VIC CB that will install on your XCT with a Firestick antenna. It is also used on the CANAM Spyder. I was never too impressed with the J&M but now believe it was just the antenna I was having problems with after getting feedback on Firestick. So I will be upgrading that antenna to see if I resolve my distance issue. However, I was getting about 1/2 mile solid transmit with degraded reception with it maybe a little more with line of sight. About 700 tied up in the J&M with the headset, their antenna as mentioned and head unit. Installed was a breeze, intercomm worked well with 2up vox and its their own xmit button but I mainly rode solo.

Vic CB installed on my Vision.
First complaint was price. Using a firestick antenna and mount, by the time I was done with parts and shipping through Kate at Honda East Toledo (cheapest I found), I was in over 1200 and a little ticked that I had to buy a 200 VIC headset just to get the connectors and pigtails for the unit which was not included in anything else. Haven't used it yet but have not heard good feedback from anyone that has when compared to j&m. Local and DX setting seems to work better on my Vic than J&M.

Whats the big difference? Integration and 500 bucks. The COMM/ICOMM selection through the Vic head unit is pretty nice, good selection for VOX, CB Volume, channel and SQ control as well as turning the CB and/or Icomm off. You can mix music/gps calls through your speakers and head set with CB in the head set. Just realized I have not check to see if I am getting CB through the speakers as well as headset but can report back on that today once I get my neighbor online. Of course you only got the one upper control mounted now instead of the larger J&M and your pinions controlls are in the trunk vs just a connector and sep push button.

I think in the end, my J&M will do as well as my Vic CB for what it is intended to do, keep us in touch with the group but the VIC CB may have it on range, appearance and functionality. I like J&M headsets, never a problem and maybe just skeptical on what I read on Vics so if you don't have one you can try it first. If you don't like it and don't own a J&M headset already then theres another 160 bumping up the total cost on the VIC kit. J&M 7 pin pigtails work with VIC CBs, so that is not a worry either.
I would have used Firestick in the first place and had I known then what I know now so appearance on the antenna will be the same either way.
So I guess it boils down to an extra 500-600 bucks you get integration as the bike was designed and maybe a better overall unit in performance and appearance as well as ease of use vs the less costly J&M mounted on your handle bar. Im happy I got the Vic unit, like it alot but not happy about the greenbacks to get there. If dollar amount is a big factor then I think the J&M will service you well. If you don't like it, I am sure you can sell it used as it is so flexible in application and then upgrade to the VIC since there is no major mods to install it.

Sorry for the longer read, just trying to get the info out there and this is obviously answering the cb comparison question, not should I go CB or bluetooth. I think everyone has their opinions there. Any cb questions feel free to ask, Im going to look and see if I still got some of the electronic installation guides somewhere when I get a chance.

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Squatch,
The intercom works really well. The VOX has sensitivity control so on windy days you can turn it up so it doesn't kick in all the time.

The passenger having her own controls for volume is good. Cheryl can turn hers down while I turn the front speakers up. I turn the rear speakers off so she doesn't get the vibrations on her back. (I like it loud) There are separate controls for the radio, cb and intercom so the adjust-ability is great.

Tim,
You mentioned you didn't know if you were getting CB out of your speakers, on my XC, it does not.

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Squatch,
The intercom works really well. The VOX has sensitivity control so on windy days you can turn it up so it doesn't kick in all the time.

The passenger having her own controls for volume is good. Cheryl can turn hers down while I turn the front speakers up. I turn the rear speakers off so she doesn't get the vibrations on her back. (I like it loud) There are separate controls for the radio, cb and intercom so the adjust-ability is great.

Tim,
You mentioned you didn't know if you were getting CB out of your speakers, on my XC, it does not.
Thanks for saving me an hour checking that. I heard some wingers comment about that durin an escort last year and just remembered.

+1 on the functionality as ridinman is pointing out. I really like the integration!

2011 White Vision - Nuvi 550, Lowers, Lloydz 2nd filter, Vic perf filter, CB/Icom, 96 Brake LED's, Clear Signal lens/Switchbacks, VIC Hwy Pegs, Stebel Horn, 7Jurock 15" Shield, PCV, Lloyd ATS and Variable intake, Ness honkers

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I have a J&M on my TC with a J&M antenna and also the same model VIC CB that will install on your XCT with a Firestick antenna. It is also used on the CANAM Spyder. I was never too impressed with the J&M but now believe it was just the antenna I was having problems with after getting feedback on Firestick. So I will be upgrading that antenna to see if I resolve my distance issue. However, I was getting about 1/2 mile solid transmit with degraded reception with it maybe a little more with line of sight. About 700 tied up in the J&M with the headset, their antenna as mentioned and head unit. Installed was a breeze, intercomm worked well with 2up vox and its their own xmit button but I mainly rode solo.

Vic CB installed on my Vision.
First complaint was price. Using a firestick antenna and mount, by the time I was done with parts and shipping through Kate at Honda East Toledo (cheapest I found), I was in over 1200 and a little ticked that I had to buy a 200 VIC headset just to get the connectors and pigtails for the unit which was not included in anything else. Haven't used it yet but have not heard good feedback from anyone that has when compared to j&m. Local and DX setting seems to work better on my Vic than J&M.

Whats the big difference? Integration and 500 bucks. The COMM/ICOMM selection through the Vic head unit is pretty nice, good selection for VOX, CB Volume, channel and SQ control as well as turning the CB and/or Icomm off. You can mix music/gps calls through your speakers and head set with CB in the head set. Just realized I have not check to see if I am getting CB through the speakers as well as headset but can report back on that today once I get my neighbor online. Of course you only got the one upper control mounted now instead of the larger J&M and your pinions controlls are in the trunk vs just a connector and sep push button.

I think in the end, my J&M will do as well as my Vic CB for what it is intended to do, keep us in touch with the group but the VIC CB may have it on range, appearance and functionality. I like J&M headsets, never a problem and maybe just skeptical on what I read on Vics so if you don't have one you can try it first. If you don't like it and don't own a J&M headset already then theres another 160 bumping up the total cost on the VIC kit. J&M 7 pin pigtails work with VIC CBs, so that is not a worry either.
I would have used Firestick in the first place and had I known then what I know now so appearance on the antenna will be the same either way.
So I guess it boils down to an extra 500-600 bucks you get integration as the bike was designed and maybe a better overall unit in performance and appearance as well as ease of use vs the less costly J&M mounted on your handle bar. Im happy I got the Vic unit, like it alot but not happy about the greenbacks to get there. If dollar amount is a big factor then I think the J&M will service you well. If you don't like it, I am sure you can sell it used as it is so flexible in application and then upgrade to the VIC since there is no major mods to install it.

Sorry for the longer read, just trying to get the info out there and this is obviously answering the cb comparison question, not should I go CB or bluetooth. I think everyone has their opinions there. Any cb questions feel free to ask, Im going to look and see if I still got some of the electronic installation guides somewhere when I get a chance.

Great Post. That is the information that I was looking for. Bucks yes the Vic system is a bunch of bucks but it does integrate with the radio, GPS, Sat radio where you have to choose with the J&M.

Thanks Chief.

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The intercom works really well. The VOX has sensitivity control so on windy days you can turn it up so it doesn't kick in all the time.

The passenger having her own controls for volume is good. Cheryl can turn hers down while I turn the front speakers up. I turn the rear speakers off so she doesn't get the vibrations on her back. (I like it loud) There are separate controls for the radio, cb and intercom so the adjust-ability is great.

Tim,
You mentioned you didn't know if you were getting CB out of your speakers, on my XC, it does not.
Like the separate volume controls for the co-rider.. Mine is a bit deaf where as my ears are quite sensitive.

I have the HD antennafrom J&M to mount on the tour pack, I will also mount the Vic AM/FM antenna on the tour pack as well. For the life of me why did Vic design the Antenna mount the way they did? Seem like an after thought.

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Ok,
Here goes, The group I ride with all have CB's and intercomms, came from a GL1800 with all the trimmings.

First blush I have mounted a J&M CB/Intercom because I wanted the low/Hi power settings. Low for in a group and HI for distance. Before you guys jump me I know the CB is a Line of sight transmitter,

Reading thu the Victory owners manual and found out the the Victory system is also a local/distance ( hi/lo) system. Do any of you have the Victory CB installed and how do you like it, how well does it perform?

Thanks in advance

I just bought the OEM CB/Intercom for my Vision. I first wanted to go with Bluetooth from JM but after talking to my JM dealer it was going to be within $100.00 of the OEM product. He actually told me JM didn't even make a CB for the Vision and I called JM to verify that and they told me the same thing.

Victory will tell you that you have to buy their headsets but I found out that is a bunch of bologna. After talking with my JM dealer he told me that JM makes the 7 pin lower cord to hooks into the OEM Vision CB. When I found this out it dropped the cost of getting the OEM CB/Intercom about $400.00, so I went with the OEM Vision CB. But here is the kicker!!! Unless, you buy their headsets you do not get the weather caps for the jack cords on the bike and they are not an accessory that you can buy!!! Had I known this before I had drilled all the holes and had everything installed I would not have bought the system! So in a way I guess they have got you trapped into buying their headsets, but only for the fact that you can't get the weather caps any other way. They will tell you you have to have their lower cords but that is NOT TRUE!! But for $400.00 I will just put black tape over the jacks when the helmet is not being used. I don't like the fact that that is what I am going to have to do but for $400.00 I will gladly do it.

Looks to me like Polaris would want to sell the weather caps as an accessory so they can continue to sell their CB. But I am going to tell everyone who will listen, about what I have gone through over this CB. It just isn't right to hold someone hostage over a $3.00 weather cap! I would much rather offer that as an accessory and sell the CB than not offer it and keep someone from buying the CB or even their motorcycles. So be warned!!! You do not have to have their headsets. If you already have headsets all you need is a 7 pin lower cord and you can get them from JM for $29.00/ea.. BUT!!!!!! if you don't buy their headsets you will not get the weather cap to cover the jacks. The choice is yours to make. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!!!

P.S. I love my Victory Vision. The CB/Intercom works great and it works with my JM headset that I already own. I am just thoroughly TICKED OFF about the weather cap situation. I think it is a disgrace for a company to do something like that!!

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